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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 10:30:54 GMT -7
I have a future project that involves using a 1/25 Revell mountain motor or similar 1/25 scale styrene model and creating my version of what I'd like as a pro mod car. I want to use either of two Ross Gibson pro mod resin engines. I believe they come very highly detailed including wires, braided oil lines, and some other additional parts which negate you having to purchase extra engine parts. Let see if I can insert the images here for ya'll to see. One is a Hemi pro mod engine which would help create a Dodge Daytona that is very competitive on the NHRA circuit right now, althought quite more like a level 4 for building. The other is simpler by using a Revell pro mod clone chassis/body and only needing an aftermarket resin engine and detailing. Here's the Hemi engine: And here's the Huge Chevy blown engine: I realize I could prolly just buy a 1/24 or 1/25 sized blower, hat and I already have the cogs, belt, twin oil filters and braided line, but I haven't been able to find the right combination of 3 holed blower hat that resembles modern cars, as well as Ross really spends time working on fitment. Not only that, it would be unique to use a blower setup instead of the usual twin carb'd NOS car. Anyone have experience building with Ross Gibson Engines and what did you think of them?
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Post by gardnerpag44 on Feb 9, 2014 11:15:53 GMT -7
Not as of yet but soon as tax check arrives I was all ready planning on some of these , but thanks for the info.
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Post by gardnerpag44 on Feb 9, 2014 11:16:07 GMT -7
Not as of yet but soon as tax check arrives I was all ready planning on some of these , but thanks for the info.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 17:58:15 GMT -7
I have a few of the Gibson engines but havent had the chance to use them yet. If you have all the parts you need except the blower, it might be more economical for you to get the blower by itself. Search eBay using "Blower in the models kits section and there is a huge selection to choose from.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 22:50:38 GMT -7
I'd really like to get some of these(the sonnys mountain motors are sweet), but the price with shipping would probably cost an arm and leg up here in canuckland .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 7:43:45 GMT -7
Good comments by all. B-N-L resins has lots of engines, some with detailed wires and belts. You just gotta be patient (something I'm learning despie my self.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 14:54:35 GMT -7
sdj355 Ross Gibson is canadian he has his own store in ontario i think I have bought and built several of Ross's Engines and they are outstanding in quality Ted
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 16:13:07 GMT -7
Welcome aboard Ted! You're a very popular person here! Mitch
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 12:22:28 GMT -7
Got my Ross Gibson/Sonny Leonard ProMod engine from Teds yesterday and it's so fine For those of you timid with resin, check here or over at MCM site for tips on resin prep. This kit is clean, mean and the only thing I'd look to improve on is in the instructions. It came with some guitar guage (.013?) wire which I think may be either what they want you to use for oil line or it's used to connect parts of the engine/blower. I'll figure it out when it comes to assembly time. Included are also oil line plumbing parts, mag, ignition wire, wirel loom P/E also. Two small steps where styrene is needed are as a spacer between the oil pump and the pan, and to form really thin spacers between the heads and engine valley (pretty sure that's right). Regardless, I'm so psyched to start this '57 Chevy pro mod project based on the Soff Seal Revell kit. I'm counting pennies to get one of Ted's newest products - hand sewn single and dual parachute packs that are so life-like, with pins, "remove before flying" tags and harness ropes. Just as another detail, I picked up some chrome P/E 1:25 scale beadlock rings in sets of four. Check 'em out before they're back-ordered!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 5:04:03 GMT -7
Well, I am convinced I have A.D.D. I am working on at least 5 different kits hands on and maybe 10 others in my mind, is this normal?? I am in the middle of getting the chassis done on my Fire Fighter Mustang, a 75 Street Nova, 78 LRE Truck, and painting on a couple of others when one of my builds in need of a motor comes to mind and I find a serch on Ross Gibson motors on the web. I have not done anything with Resin except to know crazy glue should be used instead of tube glue that dont work. The engines seem a bit pricey but look nice and interesting. Anybody use them and how do they actually turn out when done? In addition the stuff that should or would be chrome is not? What does one do about that? Thanks. S.C.
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Post by Skip-O-Matic on Mar 9, 2014 11:18:52 GMT -7
What does one do about that? 1: The A.D.D. = Embrace it, it's yours, nurture it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a licensed professional and nobody should take advice from me, even if it is what to get for lunch. 2: Resin = Really no big deal. not much difference than styrene, just make sure you wash it well to get any mold release agents off and yes, use super glue. I use Gorilla super glue even on my styrene. (maybe see disclaimer above) 3: Ross Gibson = I haven't used one yet, but have been looking at one for a build I have going. I have heard they are very good ones if you are going with a resin aftermarket engine. 4: Chrome = You can use Alclad or sometimes BMF. I have used Krylon Premium Original Chrome spray paint too, which I got at Micheal's. I used the Krylon on my Christmas Santa's Ride build for the 2013 Decmber MOTM here. It's on the wheels and bogey wheels for the half tracks.(might want to revisit disclaimer above again.)
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Post by wheaton79chris on Mar 9, 2014 13:51:02 GMT -7
Dang skip I was gonna ask you what I should make for lunch tomorrow lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 1:31:31 GMT -7
Thanks, skip, I will take a look at that paint. I was joking about the add but my wife has her concerns as she says I am all over the place these days. I am good at staying on task and my focus is (oohh, look at that bird in the tree) good most of the time Hahaha, just kidding. Thanks again!! S.C.
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Post by Skip-O-Matic on Mar 13, 2014 18:57:38 GMT -7
Well Santa, my wife says I have an advanced form of ADD called ADOLAS, which is Attention Deficit Oh Look A Squirrel.
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Post by Doc O on Mar 17, 2014 12:01:03 GMT -7
Well SC....(um whatof bird was it,theres one in my tree as well)what ws i going to say huummmm oh You seem to have a good sense of humor!!!! oh and my message has no bearing on what you were asking (other than the bird) ummmmm
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Post by poet on Mar 23, 2014 14:02:23 GMT -7
Well, from a relative newbie standpoint I think the RG engines are quite different from styrene. They require more prebuild prep to make them fit (at least mine did) and the instructions really suck or rather could use some clarification. They are good pieces though, and the offer some engines others don't.
Skip, I might try that Gorilla Glue. Hand't tried that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 4:24:35 GMT -7
Poet is right on as far as resin prep. For RG engines and separate parts, you'll need to obtain as flat a surface as possible for attachment points like the blower and the hat. They need to mate up evenly. I bought a blower and 3 hole hat from Teds along with a full RG pro mod engine and the parts were the same. I used CA glue and accelarator and that held find, just be ready to position them properly because once they touch, you've got about 2-3 seconds before they cement like permanent.
Another good trick with stryrene if you're pre-fitting is to use Elmers white classroom glue to attach parts together. Just use a little and you'be be able to find potential problems and still separate the parts for adjustment.
Skip: here's a good one for ya: The nice thing about getting old is you meet new friends everyday!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2014 4:11:44 GMT -7
More: the instructions are really bad as mentioned. I finally pre-fit mine and realized there were no instructions for the clutch/3 speed lenco tranny attachment pieces. I got mine from Teds, but I wouldn't hesitate in a minute going back to RG for help.
On the other hand, I've recently picked up 3 Hemi engines still on parts trees for about $5 per on Ebay. None with a tranny, but at least bellhousings. If you can get a Revell engine from their basic pro mod/sportsman setup which includes a full Lenco (Soff Seal '57 Chevy, '55 Chevy pro sportsman, etc) you'd have a nice twin carb pro piece.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 16:34:36 GMT -7
Persoanlly? I think ALL modelers suffer from "ADD" and we ADD and ADD and ADD as we get older the collection GROWS......
Modelers? YEP, builders? YEP, and then you add in "Collectors?" YEP HEY thats a PURFECT example of....
ME!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 10:46:29 GMT -7
Hello all... I am thinking about buying a RG mountain motor and since none of the hobby shops in my area carry them I have only been able to see online photos of them. Now my questions are 1. Quality? How nice are they 2. What do they include? Wires, photoetch etc 3. Does regular model glue work on resin or do I need a special adhesive 4. Does anyone else offer a different product? Thanks for the feedback ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 11:10:01 GMT -7
Great question, Mikey. We've discussed this one before. I personally like them. I have a few for upcoming builds and have put together two I think. Paul (GardnerPag44 just recently put one together for his 50s build. You can find that here>>>>> jerryscherrys.freeforums.net/thread/3254/50s-build?page=3Here's a couple of pics of mine. both are 392 Hemis s1118.photobucket.com/user/iceman-555/media/model%20cars/Resin%20Chopped%201932%20Ford/EE9EDD25-7F89-4955-8211-CF6A7417C976.jpg.html?sort=3&o=211. Quality has decreased over the years. If you can get them with the construction paper package instead of the glossy paper package, I think it's better. the newer releases seem to be copies of the copies. My experience. 2. Might be different from engine to engine but they all include PR wire looms at least. No wire for sure but you can find that easily. 3. I use CA glue for mine. Once it's on, it stays on. 4. Depends on the engine youre looking for. Our member Hemi offers a similar engine. The rest, you'll have to look pretty hard and find a kit that includes it and/or maybe kit bash. Hope that helps.
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Post by Big D on Mar 5, 2015 11:43:30 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 6:39:13 GMT -7
Thank you... That Hemi looks great I think I will pony up and spend the money
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 6:08:45 GMT -7
Mikey what one you plannin' on buying? I just got a RG 426 Ramcharger III and its not a bad looking engine BUT I wanted it more for the exhaust manifolds then anything BUT I found a few "extra" plusses in there to add to my the stash of engines I got......
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 7:33:34 GMT -7
Hemi... I came across a 66 Chevelle kit at a local show and was able to scoop it up for $5 and I have really wanted to build some sort of outlaw racer so I am thinking about the 736 cid thumper with the split dominators so we will see
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 17:03:58 GMT -7
OHHHHH thats a bigun!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 8:31:36 GMT -7
Yeah I am a little unsure because i have never built with resin or custom built with strip or sheet styrene before and I know I will have to do alot of customizing on the chassis to make this build look right. But with that said the only way to do it is just pull up the old boot straps and get it done...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 8:44:21 GMT -7
There you go Mikey! We've all learned a little by kicking it up a notch on our own builds. There's always something to learn. The RG engines wont give you a hard time if you take your time. resin is more difficult when you work when an entire body, in my experience. Can't wait to see your progress on the hot rod.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 11:34:41 GMT -7
Yep, as iceman said thats grabbin' life by the horns.......
We've all stepped up a notch much the same way..... Like Ice also said resin is more difficult to work with, take your time and use nothing BUT super glue or "CA" type glue and you'll be good to go! I too make my own resin motors so.......
Can't wait to see where ya go with it! Be sure to post pics of the work in progress!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 13:01:44 GMT -7
Thanks for the encouragement fellas
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