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Post by stitchdup on Mar 14, 2016 11:34:00 GMT -7
I've been offered a really cheap airbrush set. It has a compressor with a tank and one airbrush but I don't know if I should wait and save more money, or get this cheap (used) set to get some experience with. Any advice would be appreciated. I don't know what brand it is, so are there any to avoid?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 14:31:38 GMT -7
I started out with a very cheap AB, I got a feel for it, but it only lasted about 6 months before it started leaking and spraying funny. Then I brough a Passche VL dual action, in 25 years I have replaced a 20 cent o'ring,
which was readily available. As for compressor, get something with a good sized tank, or it will be running flat out the whole time trying to keep up, and you will end up with pressure fluctuations.
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Post by stitchdup on Mar 14, 2016 17:20:06 GMT -7
Well this set will cost me the same as 2 cases of beer or one afternoon in the pub(lol, sort off), but with my being Scottish that is the same as a kit. I spoke with the guy shifting it, and an ebay sale he had on it fell through, but he didn't know if it was dual action or not, but that the trigger went in 2 directions to work.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 17:48:40 GMT -7
I've taken some gambles like this on used or inexpensive stuff. For me it comes down to whether or not I'm OK with "losing" that amount of money if that's what it comes to. And of course the risk has to be worth the possible savings. I started with a couple of inexpensive airbrushes (new), and I learned that they're a waste of time and money. A classic case of "I wish I knew than what I know now." I also learned that a decent airbrush doesn't have to be very expensive. I have both a single action Paasche H and a double action Paasche VL and they both work great. Having two is a luxury, I could do very well with either one by itself. I can get either one for about $60 plus shipping...there's no need to spend hundreds on an airbrush. What is this fellow asking for the set? Here's a couple of places where I gotten most of my airbrushes and accessories. Even if you're not going to buy from one of them you can get an idea of what's available. The only brand they sell that I wouldn't buy is Master...had one of those and couldn't get it to work. Chicago AirbrushTCP Global |
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Post by stitchdup on Mar 14, 2016 18:08:43 GMT -7
Cheers Sidney, I appreciate the advice. the price works about maybe $35US, but in Scotland that's the same as a kit. Is there a minimum tank size I should look for? I've only ever used cans and brushes so it will all be new to me. I'm guessing it would be like a $100 or less set in the US
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 19:22:30 GMT -7
$35 is dirt cheap if the stuff works OK.
The first compressor I bought didn't have a tank and that didn't seem to cause problems. The one I have now has a 1 gallon tank and runs pretty much all the time when I'm spraying. Supposedly you get steadier air pressure from the tank even if the compressor is running, but I really haven't noticed all that much difference between the compressor with the tank and the one without.
Probably a stupid question, but why do you want to switch from spray cans to an airbrush? Not getting the results you want?
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Post by stitchdup on Mar 15, 2016 1:53:26 GMT -7
There are no stupid questions mate, it's more to use less paint, and allow me a wider range of colours than I have available just now, and I would love to be able to do some fade paintjobs which isn't really possible with cans. I even tried putting graphiti can nozzles on but they made little difference
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 10:46:02 GMT -7
If you want to do fades a dual-action brush would probably be the best way to go. You can adjust the amount of air or paint being sprayed as you're spraying.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 13:36:10 GMT -7
Great subject!Been thinking of making the change myself and had many of the same questions.This is a hobby for me and I budget build the best I can so I wasn't sure how much the price mattered.I couldn't justify $150 for an airbrush for a model that is just going on my shelf.But $60 works for me.Spent more on dumber things!  |
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Post by stitchdup on Mar 15, 2016 13:48:43 GMT -7
It's the same for me Slider, A spray can of paint costs me about £6 usually, but I can get nail varnish for £1 so for me, it works out cheaper in the end. Especially if my paint keeps going bad on me. I used 3 tins on my 40(not including primer) when I did it, and I have something else in the pond just now that's on it's second attempt at paint. By my maths, I'd be saving money after 10 builds if the paint goes ok, and after 3 if it goes bad (which is more likely, lol)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 10:54:51 GMT -7
I never even thought of the savings aspect...that's an excellent point. I've used craft acrylics with good results, and a 2oz bottle usually cost less that $2, and that's easily enough for one or maybe two models. The selection of colors available is staggering.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 20:15:17 GMT -7
When painting with nail polish does one bottle paint the whole model?
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Post by stitchdup on Mar 17, 2016 0:58:14 GMT -7
I'm not sure mate, but I'd be getting it from our version of dollar general.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 1:31:12 GMT -7
When painting with nail polish does one bottle paint the whole model? Depending on the color, and the base color. I find if you have a sweet transparent color, a good silver base will generally let you do a whole model with 1 jar, it will also depend on how dark you want the finished result too mate. If you have a deep red, try a red base coat or even black, this will help out coverage, as the bonus of nail polish is they are mostly pearl or even harlequine type finishes, so the base is just a helper. I usually get 1 model per jar, but sometimes it will take 1 1/2 . And just thin it with good quality thinners. Auto clear will go over it too... |
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Post by stitchdup on Mar 17, 2016 15:58:47 GMT -7
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Post by jbailey on Mar 17, 2016 19:46:56 GMT -7
I have two of those silver air brushes. I have 2 because I bought too small of a needle the first time lol. For a cheap dual action brush they work well and I think it would be a good place to start to see if you like using one. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 2:51:59 GMT -7
I would say no, the airbrush's are cheap, you might get a year out of them, as for the compressor, they will run flat out all the time,
as the HP is low and the tank is tiny. A good passche dual action for under $100 here in Aus, $50 in the USA, mine has lasted 25 years so far.
A compressor with a tank can be got for $150, 2hp, 40ltr tank, mine has lasted 20 years so far, do it right, and don't spend again..
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Post by stitchdup on Mar 18, 2016 3:22:22 GMT -7
Cheers guys, I've not heard from the guy that offered me one so have started looking for a decent deal on a new one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 10:18:26 GMT -7
Based on my own experience, I'd be wary of "no-name" airbrushes and compressors, especially ones that are that cheap. Better one good airbrush than three not so good ones.
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Post by CoyoteCrunch on Mar 18, 2016 12:52:30 GMT -7
Based on my own experience, I'd be wary of "no-name" airbrushes and compressors, especially ones that are that cheap. Better one good airbrush than three not so good ones. Kind of like women............  |
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Post by stitchdup on Mar 18, 2016 13:26:35 GMT -7
Based on my own experience, I'd be wary of "no-name" airbrushes and compressors, especially ones that are that cheap. Better one good airbrush than three not so good ones. Kind of like women............ I really want to make a rude comment here.....  |
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