Disappointing voting

I'm going to restart the vote for the big scale contest because it really is hard to separate the winner when you to vote for 3 of 4. I should have made it pick you top two or just one. Will restart poll this afternoon. Thanks guys and keep supporting the hobby, and hopefully us as well.

This is good feedback we got a while back.
If you take a look at the first thread/section in the forum, it includes all active voting polls every month. I update that with the links to every poll e Rey month so you guys don't have to be navigating to find them. I hope that helps.

It won't let me vote on anything?

So let me ask you guys this. When we first started, we would allow one vote only regardless of how many entries we had. We noticed that some of the builders that received 0-1 vote often stopped participating. It can be a bit disappointing and frustrating to not get any votes on something you thought you did so good in. Could be they didn't get all the needed pics. Could be the build wasn't as good. Could be all builds were great. Or does it mean some members need to up their game? So I started changing it to more votes. I know we had a similar thread last year. I know that some of this would be eliminated if we all just used the voting sheet, but we don't want to beat a dead horse as we've strongly encouraged everyone to use it, in the past. We try to make it as fair as possible even though I know that there will be people that will just not use the voting sheet and that's something we can't change.

How do you guys feel about that now?

One vote? More than one?

I think that'll work except it's rare that we have more than 5 entries for MOTM or 3 month contest. I'm not trying to sway anyone
s opinion as I really want to hear what you all recommend, but how about this:

1-3 entries: 1 vote
4-5 entries: 2 votes
5+ entries: 3 votes


Another thing I just though of to what DC was saying about people holding back their last vote - I can also hide results until it closes, even though that takes away from the fun of watching votes move your build up and down in the voting race.

These are all just thoughts, folks so please feel free to comment.

I agree with DeeCee on this, I think two votes is enough and I think you should hide the votes so there is no vote changing, and I personally like to see the vote progress, but you have to do what is fair and best for the members and contestants. I vote every time and I vote the maximum number of votes. Following the sheet is important also. I didn't once and it cost me. From now on I will always follow the sheet. God bless this forum, it's the best one going with the best members and builders.

With the sheet it's more clear cut. If a contestant didn't post the right pics or if his build is curb side and has no motor he would get a zero for that section and someone who did lots of detail would get a higher number. So often votes are cast for the WOW factor or to help out a friend and these things are ignored . Iceman is it posable to lock in the votes once you make them? I would love to see everyone score using the sheets, a single vote per member , votes locked once you vote and votes visible after vote is cast , but that's my purfect world two cents worth !

I don't vote on any of the contest vehicles at any of my e-clubs. My feeling is too often a voter is choosing between models different enough and of widely different amounts of creativity and time and skills involved. If one builder does his/her best, it shouldn't rate as non-winner. Every completed model made with best effort is a winner. I'm more a fan of the grouping of each builder's model gallery.
In sum, contests are nice and I too wish more who come here would take an interest and vote. It's just not something I feel I can do because the models competing are often so varied, it's like apples and oranges, which do you vote for? And I'm an apricot fan.

Good feedback all around. Unfortunately, proboards does not let you lock in votes that I know of. I'll look into it though. That would eliminate some of the manipulating but I do think some would wait to try and vote last minute to sway the vote. I'm starting to think that hiding the votes until the poll closes IS the fairest way to do it.

The other thing we will do, and I'm sure Beast is perfectly ok with this, at the beginning of every poll, before pictures of the builds, we will put a picture of the scoring sheet. That way it's the first thing you see, you don't have to go looking for it, and hopefully more people start to use it.

We have to attempt to keep a fair game for everyone. That, being drama free, and having fun have been our biggest priorities since the beginning, over two years ago.

Lastly, to Harron's point, some of these categories ARE pretty wide but everyone knows in advance what the theme is going to be. If you decide to spend the next 12 months working on December 2016 motm, you are more than welcome to. If you want to challenge yourself and build it in 30 days, you can do that also. But these are indeed contests. There will always be a winner. I agree that the rest of the builders are definitely not losers. And nobody should let a low number of vote define you as a bad builder. We always say and I mean mean it that we have a great bunch of builders. I've seen some great improvements in many builders and I have personally learned a lot from you guys. Not to mention the willingness to help.

Sheesh. I have rambled long enough. Just want you all to know how much I appreciate you guys.

You all tell me what changes we need to make to these contests and we'll try to make them.

Thanks bud. Our sentiment exactly. Here is an updated voting sheet. It's based on the old one we had but it will now be in every poll.

What do you guys think?

Now remember, we can't force everyone to use it but it will be a more fair vote from those of use that do.

Looks good here to, I have the old score sheet printed out, in a file, with many copies. So i will continue to use the old one, just because I have so many copies.
But I think this will be good to remind everyone to please, take a little extra time and tally up each contestant. It will actually surprise you what scores you get at times

I think it would help a lot on the voting if you would send an e-mail to all members about the voting poll's for that month, that's what I did on the forum I was running and it worked good too. Just my 2 cents smiley-greet016

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I only vote when I don't see orange peel, tires an wheels that don,t look egg shaped, when something impresses me, any car can be a pro mod, street, pro street, stock, like I was once told, any car can be made a kustom, so I don't vote often when most builds look like the last 500 I have seen, and like in the big scale, just one side shot, so' one has to go thru the forum to see the whole car, but hey that's just me, I like to see detail in a persons build, not 20 hours doing all the detail to an engine, only to have the alternator still floating, and def no vote using PE stuff, then again I build my stuff, not just put it together, lol that's prolly why I can't get anything finished, to fat and lazy to finish the scratch part of it.


I agree there are some talented ppl, so lets see allot more votes for that TRUE talent......