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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 12:09:29 GMT -7
Guys, Well after getting home and resting a day, I thought about the truck I just got in a model ('67 Dodge Power Wagon) I have been "slowly" working on another truck, my old "first" vehicle, thats actually part of a Father & Son set, of trucks I have planned. BUT I haven't done ANY posting on it. So, to give you an idea of what I'm trying to do here is this, A little "history" if you will. Back when I was a teenager, I worked for a garage that you all by now should know! This same garage at that time, was trying to help me get a "first" car or even truck and I worked for it, the owner found me a '78 Dodge Power Wagon, W-100. I was all for it, and he simply wanted me to work for the cost of the truck for 2 weeks and the truck was mine to work on after hours, and so, I took his offer as it was thee only way I was gonna have a 16th birthday vehicle. The truck was 4x4, it had a Mopar 360 in it. and was pretty solid body and frame! BUT upon checking the engine, it turns out that 360 was seriously "pounded" a lot of little things point that it was ran and used, with little to NO oil in the engine! So, the owner, Don told me, we'll yank it, and see what I can find. I was agreeing to this as that 360 was never gonna last long knowing it had been used with little to no oil in it. The engine itself, needed both heads replaced, and had a soft wrist pin in the rotating kit, and I simply wasn't going to do all I wanted to do to it, and then risk the engine blowing for sure. So, about 2 more weeks AFTER this, the owner, Don, found a '69 Plymouth 440 "Super Commando" engine. Basically a 440, with a 4 barrel carburetor. Told me he can get it for me, if I agee'd to work yet another week, for the cost of the engine. SO, I got it. I at this point already owned the truck my 2 weeks of working for free were up! SO, it was in to this that far and Don, always treated me good kid or not..... Was a bit of work to get that engine into the truck, but we did it, I only ever got to "test" drive it, as I could run 2 miles up the road, and back from being an employee to the garage on the very out skirts of my home town, 4 houses away from where I grew up in Pennsylvania. So, this model, is going to be built, as my truck would have been when it was done, and I had my drivers license!!!!! Not a lot of "building" just Mopar stuff Don had given to me over the time this truck was being built, road worthy, however you want to look at it. SADLY, I never did get it road worthy, as one day were were working on a '68 or '69 Chevy Camaro, the truck was outside parked along the road, in front of the garage in the late winter and a 4 door Chevy Celebrity came down the road flyin hit Anti-skid on the road and T-boned my truck! Sadly totaling the truck, BUT never hurt the 440 in it. SO Don & I both tried to buy the truck back from the insurance and they (hers) would NOT sell it to me or him.......Why? Well thats where Don & I both got a good lesson, that engine we had in the truck the 440 4 barrel out of a Plymouth wasn't what we thought! The block number indicated this motor was a 440 Plymouth Interceptor! AND WAS FULLY in tact from the '68 or '69 Plymouth Fury it came out of with all the "Interceptor" parts in the block, Cam, all that, it was all there...... With it coupled to a 4 speed Mopar transmission! So were S.O.L. on getting it back due to this fact! With that all said, now off to the model..... More explaining to be done with the pictures of this whole story as the kit unfolds! Now as you all know, I'm a big "stock" builder no less. BUT this truck model will be built as I had it started..... The engine before it went into the truck, was repainted the same color it originally was.....Mopar Engine Turquoise. BUT upon getting this engine in the truck Don himself came to me one day with a box, while I was sanding on the roof of a car in the shop to be painted, poked me in the arm pit with this box that had valve covers in it, pretty much NEW ones, I was like Don, those on the 440 are OK, I don't need new ones. Hes like take them, I have had these things and since you got an engine for them, there yours...... Pretty much NEW stock 440 valve covers, BUT, they were chromed OEM parts! I got to say, I was a happy camper! The belts are only "posed" on the front, I got a little ways to go on the engine yet! I got to replace the oil filter and mount, on my trip down south, and got home, I somehow managed to knock it off and lost it, but I can say here I am not hurt on it, as I wasn't feeling it all that much so, bad things sometimes happen for a reason, I'll replace it with a bit better done detail (was a gluebomb part!) Then Don suggested, I remove the stock Carter AFB or AFC carburetor off the engine due to its age and replace it, which I did, got the transferring plate to mount a Carter Thermoquad in its place (better winter starting), which with the stock carb it did start hard, the Thermoquad once jetted right started the ole 440 with not even a grind start over the winter I worked on it like the Carter AFB or AFC carb did.....I was glad I did it! The last picture, shows the Thermoquad in place and fuel supply line going to it with filter! More to follow right after these short messages! ENJOY!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 12:32:03 GMT -7
So then while I been at it, I got to really looking at the frame to see what I was facing..... Took this frame----^ It was to a complete '78 Dodge Little Red Express truck kit, and began designing it to be a 4x4 truck. the Little Red Express from Dodge was a 2x4 truck. So, as you all know me, that had to change! I got to making my own front end, suspension, rear end, steering, shocks, you name it...... This is how that all turned out: Top of the inner fender wells painted black, to match the truck, and glossed! You can see a bit of work I did under them with the suspension too! A VERY good shot of the front suspension, most of it is scratch built! The pumpkin on the rear is thee only true kit part, other then the leaf springs! They are not to this kit, from from some other kit! I made everything else, the shocks are partly kit parts, but again no to this kit, and not from the same kit, as the mounts were cut off something as the shocks themself were off something else. The "coil overs" I made myself to fit over the modified shocks you'll see a bit closer in a minute! The entire "steering", is scratchbuilt! The tie-rod ends were a necklace part I bought from Hobby Lobby, and I think they look pretty good too! (I have to say I was surprised they worked and looked as well as they do! Metal too! The rods are all metal! glued into holes into the tie-rod ends! That actually lead to the bell crank on the power steering part out of my loose parts collection of parts! I also had to modify the motor mount to hold the new engine as well! Left "stock" the motor sat oddly in it, so...... Notice the BIG tires, the real truck had these, but were never on the truck, as it was easier to roll around with the beater tires and rims that came with the truck. Don, the owner of the garage found nice rims he had for a Dodge that fit without issue! SO.....gave them to me, and I got the tires on the rims at least and the 4 of them in the bed of the truck with a spare rim to make a real full spare tire with! Also notice the front brakes! Was NOT disk, this truck had drum brakes on all 4 corners! This also shows a really good picture of the shocks, that I also salvaged from the garage. Coil-overs..... Fuel tank was replaced, with a better one and treated, this is shown too...... Not that it really "needed" being replaced, BUT Don yet again, had a way better in good shape one that bolt right up! Gave that to me too! A good shot of the big 4x4 tires I had, they're not 100% exact to what I had, but the size is real close, and the tread too is damn near the same! With chrome aluminum "slot" type rims..... Also shows a bit of "stance" too, being a 4x4, and a Power Wagon, it was a high setting truck, to start with, did not need any sort of "lift" as it sat plenty high already, so I left that alone on the real truck, the trick was making it have close to that same stance as the real one did! More to follow after these breif messages! stay tuned!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 12:44:37 GMT -7
So then you see how all this is coming together.....I thought I'd get the rear end together (somewhat) and try to get a look at the trucks "stance" I got it did tho, it looks GREAT! Tires are resin models I had, and rims well, were pretty much the same rims that the Little Red Express truck came with! They aren't exact, as they're for a 2x4 truck, and my real one was 4x4, but they're close enough for me at this point........... I'm honestly surprised, I'm even able to make this truck happen NEVER MIND 2 of them....As my Dads truck I have not started yet, BUT it will be placed within this same build.... As he owned one at the very same time I did! Both trucks tho, were 4x4, mine was raised or well looked as tho it was, and his wasn't, it was stock height stance and stock tires on it, with stock steel "spoked" rims. And naturally mine being a step-side bed truck, his was a Sweptline "Straight bed" truck...... Pics of the stance: With engine setting in place!!!!! NICE under side clearance on everything engine, tires and rims, height, you name it it all looks damn near spot on to what my real truck was....... Sadly tho, I have but one picture of this truck in real life, and i can't seem to find the damn thing! As its not a digital picture! I find it, I'll have my wife scan it for me at the library at some point to post it with this build! A bright shot of the bed in place..... And just a few extras. this is where I'm at for now...... More to come as I'm able and have made some sort of progress, the frame tho is damn near done! I have to get the brake line mounts made and in place as well as the rear end in place and then detail the thing right up to go along with the rest of my builds being super detailed! ENJOY! Also in this build, a BIG thanks goes out to Big D "Denny", for my model truck, and my Dads version, a big Thanks to our Plastic Addict Gardnerpag44 "Paul" these 2 guys helped make this all possible! THANKS guys! praising-the-lord-smiley-emoticon praising-the-lord-smiley-emoticon
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 13:52:49 GMT -7
Nice work, looks like I have some stiff Mopar competition on the truck builds. going to have to up my game some LOL. Nice tires, where did they come from? Would love a set or two as I have two 4X4 builds coming up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 14:34:32 GMT -7
Thanks Chas! I been at it a bit and with me, as you'll see, I build as the real thing! I take the model and do the best I can to make it look like a real one! Prototype sort of modeling i guess.... BUT this truck seen here is one built after a real truck I once owned! And was in the process of building it to road worthyness.... So, but it got hit while parked out front of the garage I worked at way back when still burns my butt just talking about it, as I never did get to drive that truck around legally! Those tires, are out of a tire set that came from a resin company called Hobby Time I think it was, they went to some HUGE Military transport truck set up, that I was gonna use for another modeling adventure till I got back into model cars, NOW I've used 4 out of 6 "steering" tires on my Daisy Dukes Jeep, and now 4 out of I'm not sure how many "load bearing" tires and rims to that same set of tires! I have more tho, the only catch to them, is they have G.I. hubs and rims molded into the tire. I had to drill them out to fit the rims for each model as I used them! They're pretty expensive tires these days.... BUT I plan to try and mold them to have them for when I want to do something similar again! Thanks guy! More to come!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 22:15:56 GMT -7
Nice stance. Love the old Dodge trucks. Especially the Power Wagon. I used to be a "Mopar or no car guy." And then I had no car. I thought "a car is better than no car." But I still love the Mopar. My first was a 76 Aspen green with white interior, crank sunroof and a 318.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 2:44:13 GMT -7
Yeah the stance of the model is spot on to what/how my real truck was....... I've ALWAYS favored the dodge trucks even the new ones, Altho, I'd take an older one over the new ones of today however (Just like being able to work on my own auto's is all) so...... BUT I have always favored the Power Wagon over ANY other trucks made even those made by Dodge, they were hard to beat and seemed as tho, you couldn't kill the things! Pound 'em and the harder and more ya done it it seemed the better they liked it! I STILL own a Power Wagon tho... the current one is a '67 crew cab step-side bed truck! 318 in an Aspen, I bet that thing was a fun car with a 318 in it! They weren't to bad a car back in the day!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 12:29:24 GMT -7
I also had a 78 Aspen w/318. And one of my favorite cars I've ever had a 79 Volare Roadrunner w/360 and T-tops. Oh the good ole days. Those were the beginning of my Mopar madness.
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Post by Big D on Apr 17, 2015 12:32:08 GMT -7
Your doing a wonderful job on this John. Great detail work and your scratch building work is superb as always. hand-clapping-smiley-emoticon
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 12:46:08 GMT -7
I also had a 78 Aspen w/318. And one of my favorite cars I've ever had a 79 Volare Roadrunner w/360 and T-tops. Oh the good ole days. Those were the beginning of my Mopar madness. Yes, the 318 was a GREAT motor A LOT of those old "LA" motors still in regular service! BUT, They were more known for there longevity then anything..... My grandfather had a '77 Plymouth Volare..... I JUST got a model of that car thanks to one of our own members here that got it for me and traded another car I had for it..... I'm very pleased! BUT, I've always been a Mopar guy......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 13:25:00 GMT -7
Your doing a wonderful job on this John. Great detail work and your scratch building work is superb as always. hand-clapping-smiley-emoticon Thanks Denny! I'm having fun, its nice to see a model of a real truck or even car, I once owned being made! This one however has a little added to it, as the real one HAD the parts to go on it, but they never made it onto the actual truck, but were in the bed! (I have to), as I never got to see how it look as I had it planned as I mentioned it got wrecked before I got it done. So, I'm building the model as my truck would have been, had it been completed! Thanks Denny tho, the scratchin' is always a fun one on me, you know it! Those tie-rod ends details were a GOD SEND man, I'll be able now to make all sorts of 4x4 front steering components! Monster Trucks.............Look out, here I come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! evil6
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Post by gardnerpag44 on Apr 17, 2015 16:05:44 GMT -7
This is looking just great John all the scratch work and detail is so cool , ought to look awesome when done !!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 2:07:35 GMT -7
Thanks Paul! I'll be using the long straight bed as well as the frame are traded for under my Dad's truck to be modeled to go into the "Father & Son set... I'll be having a blast on both of these! smiley-greet016
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 14:53:09 GMT -7
Watching this one and getting ideas, great work, thanks. Chas.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 11:34:47 GMT -7
Thanks Chas! Its a fun one BUT its also a "replica" sort of build, as I'm building this from memory, of parts that I had for the real truck that either got on the truck, or I had them to go on the truck, MOST of whats seen here is parts I sought out to get for the truck and all of it was done by me!
So as you follow along, this model is going to be a dead replica to a REAL truck I was getting road worthy just before my 16th birthday! So.... Yeah, a lot going on as far as details too.......
The 2nd truck in this build will be the same way too! My "Dad's" part in "Father & Son" build..... Just a slightly different trucks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 0:25:23 GMT -7
So, with the weather being really decent, and doing a bit of yard work as well as the clean up from the trip I made to N. Carolina, I did get a little done and or worked on on this build this weekend! I got the front brakes and brake connections set up. I have yet to do some more but..... All in good time! Showing a bit of brake line shaped and added to the frame for the front axle. I had to make my own fittings to the lines, as seen the lines to the wheels are hose, and otherwise have fitting through the frame, to a hard line that goes to basically a brake line/flow manifold, that sits on the frame just below the master cylinder on the firewall. Same sort of view just a bit more shown! That longer line on the right side of the frame is the brake line to the rear axle! A bit more detail shown of the same bit, the manifold and all its connections seen here! Right side up view this time. The brake line manifold is mounted right to the top of the shock mount! Makes it a bit easier to add the brake lines from the master cylinder this way! This also allows the motor to be in place or removed with the parts! JUST MAKES clearance here (It really is a tight fit!) As the engine is a 440 Mopar big block!!!! Showing a bit of the steering parts I added to the kit. This was a FUN one to do, but looks good! Shows a bit more details and is a bit clearer to see what was added here...... Thats all for now folks! More to come as I have made progress! ENJOY!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 6:15:38 GMT -7
Nice job on those brake lines, John. That should stop this monster!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 11:06:24 GMT -7
Thanka Ice!
Yeah thias truck being "street legal" was a "mini-monster". As it was in real life, right at the height limit!!!! Like 1/16th inch below the legal height limit! This one is a fun build just because, BUT the second one is gonna be the real fun one, My Dads truck in the set....... His was pretty much bone stock! Nothing special, just a plain ole '79 Dodge Adventurer 150, 4x4. So...... Both trucks, were black, Dads had a V-8, 318 with a 727 Torqueflight automatic transmission in it, mine was 440 with a 833, 4 speed in it. Different drive trains, but both were decent trucks Dad had his up till about 6 years ago, and then he got his '84 Dodge Power Ram, that my cousin has today!
Fun project, something to put me & Dad together, ya know? I got a model of his car, and my truck (both of them) and well...... I always dedicated builds to Dad in his Honor, BUT this one, puts us both together.... As Father & Son.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 16:15:41 GMT -7
Nice work. Keeping an eye on this build of yours. Betting you will be done with your truck before I am done with mine but its all good. Just looking forward to seeing a bunch of Dodge trucks here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 18:15:58 GMT -7
i like it smileyCASHS601_zps1c54a9c5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 18:57:53 GMT -7
Nice work. Keeping an eye on this build of yours. Betting you will be done with your truck before I am done with mine but its all good. Just looking forward to seeing a bunch of Dodge trucks here. I dunno, all depends if I can make distance on the build to get it done or close...... sadly, remember my air brush is still on the broken down side of things SO, I'm buildingtill its back to road worthy condition! As for the trucks, Chas, go back a few pages on here. I have SEVERAL on the "GO" being built!!!! I got this truck (WILL be workin on my Dads addition to this build, when this one is done), a A100 as a monster Truck "Doomz Day", then I have another truck thats damn near done (can't mention much more then that here) and I got my Rat Finklestien truck thats partly an A100, and sadly, 3 other A100's, as well as 2 of the Revell VTS Ram 1500's too! PLUS I got a Dodge L-700 tractor to build to haul my "Doomz Day" race team around! THEN, I got a model of my REAL truck to do. But that one is a ways off...... smileyCASHS601_zps1c54a9c5 So yeah, I'll be flooding this area with some on an off..... road-rage-smiley-emoticon I've always been a truck lover tho. Real ones and model! high-five-smiley-emoticon
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 19:02:14 GMT -7
i like it smileyCASHS601_zps1c54a9c5 -I kinda figured you would Frank! I only say it cuz its true tho............. We both sorta rednecks that way, I mean, crap, look at my REAL truck that I currently own and you tell me, if I'm redneck or not! Gotta love the use of G.I. tires with civilian wheels! Makes for a high sittin' muddin' machine! evil6 -Just how I was planning to make the real one and had the parts to do it! Would have happened too if it was hit were it was parked outside the garage that day!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 13:12:43 GMT -7
So how about a little update? For the Day as it is, 4-26-16. HAPPY HEMI DAY! I'll begin with the frame work and firewall on the truck. I added the details to the firewall, as well as the brake lines to the master cylinder. Then, a little work went into the fuel tank and added details for such. Fuel lines, with fittings, supply and return. So then now that the frame is pretty much done inside the engine compartment, around the engine where it will set, lets add the engine! In these pictures, you can see, the alternator wires, to the coil, and the red one to the battery, the red one will follow along the radiator core support to the battery, the blue wire is to the coil, and into the firewall for the dash electrics. THEN you can see the wiper motor wiring, as well as the heater motor wiring, as well as the places all the battery cables will be going as well. THEN if you look at the engine, I got power steering lines to the power steering, I got the heater hoses going from the engine to the heater, WITH fittings as well. I also went as far to add fittings to the brakes master cylinder, as well as the steering shaft u-joint, that goes to the power steering from the steering wheel inside the cab. More to follow, right after these short messages!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 13:19:49 GMT -7
So, Being this model was started from a stock kit of the Little Red Express, truck, that truck was a 2 wheel drive truck, and my truck that I'm modeling here as a replica, was a 4 wheel drive truck, I had to come up with some extra parts! One of such, being he transfer case. This part I got in trade from our own Knarf. THANKS Frank! This was a GREAT detail, and needed a little "changing as it wasn't meant to be on a Dodge, BUT with a little work, I made it happen AND built the mounts to hold it as well! This part, was made to have the pumpkin of the front axle to the drivers side of the truck where as the actual Dodge truck had the front axle pumpkin to the passenger side of the truck. SO I had to make some modifications to the whole set up as well as the front axle, too, was scratchbuilt, using some existing parts I had laying around! With this all in place, I think it looks pretty good and going from memory, I think I am getting the look on the model that I had on the actual real truck! Thats it for now. a lot of little details that doesn't look like much in the big picture, BUT thats allowing that much closer to finishing the model itself! ENJOY for now!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 13:21:00 GMT -7
WOW! WOW! Super detailed. I like it! Very impressive. hand-clapping-smiley-emoticon
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 13:36:29 GMT -7
Thanks CS.....I appreciate it, has been a GREAT build, and I'm enjoying the replication of making it after something I once had...... Can't deny I have a thing for details huh?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 22:17:30 GMT -7
Well a little further on this..... I got the front exhaust in place to the mufflers, that in itself was a trial to get the pipe bent correctly to fit! BUT thats how it was, or close too how it was on my real truck as when I got the truck I knew and so did the garage owner (he got it for me) that it needed new exhaust so...... Thats what it got! This shows that it also got the front drive shaft as well, as the exhaust pipes had to go in first, to then be able to add the custom made/fitted drive shaft! Same thing different angle of view! Showing that the red mufflers were placed side-by-side to then be able to run the exhaust within the frame rails as the model had "stacks" which were running the mufflers outside of the frame rails under the the floor board/pan and just inside the rocker panels of the cab on both sides. My truck didn't have "stacks" so that was all not needed and really, I wasn't impressed with the mufflers the kit supplied as these used were closer to what I actually had on the real truck! Showing the rear most part of the mufflers having been drilled to take the new formed tail pipes..... I have yet a little paint touch up to do BEFORE the pipes are bent to go in place. "above" pic, without the bright flash of my camera, to allow some less "flash" and to let the details be seen instead of flashed over..... As the paint is bright, added with the flash hides a lot details I find at times..... I also have yet to add the rear differential as well, as it has to have the exhaust pipes "in-place" before ANY of that can be added as I am not fond of "fishing" pipe through all that when it can wait till the end and save me some frustration trying to get it all in place AND this allows me to add pipe hangers, and any other small details without a lot of trouble! Stay tuned more to come as progress is made!
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Post by gardnerpag44 on Apr 27, 2015 4:23:51 GMT -7
Some mighty fine work here Hemi looking real good
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 4:47:55 GMT -7
Thanks Paul! I appreciate it! This has been a FUN build I have to say I actually have been to the point with it at times, its almost difficult to "stop" for the night you know? Things going together so well, that makes it even more difficult to stop doing it.... SO, I continue, as your about to see! LOL
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 4:48:23 GMT -7
So to continue on....... John got the exhaust tail pipes on the truck frame! Lookin' good I gotta say! If you look closely to the rear suspension, where the axle would be placed, center of the leaf springs you can see a Testors "rubber" colored wire, this is the rear brake hose to go from the cross pipe on the rear, to the hard pipe mounted to the cross members of the frame. Look a bit closer even still, you can see the mount for that on the cross members as well as the fittings! You can see the rear brake line coming out from behind the fuel tank, going to the mount, where the hose fittings are, that would be to the hose thats headed for the cross pipe on the rear. Also seen in these pictures is the exhaust pipe work I done. Notice the pipe hangers in various locations. ALL pre-bent to fit the location its placed in, as the real truck would be if I still had it. Looking at the whole frame from the rear, seeing the hose for the brakes, in the center of the frame. As well as the way the exhaust pipes were ran. The black exhaust pipe hangers show up well here! A slightly different view..... I left the ends of the pipe "long" for the finish of the model as I will have to bend the pipes down from behind the hanger to get past the bumper once in place, and then "tips" to be made and added when all said and done, that will be the last details added to the model when its all done! Now that the exhaust is in place, I can move on to get the rear end in place as well as the rear drive shaft, and suspension completed! Stay tuned more to follow after these short messages......
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