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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 23:32:18 GMT -7
Ok, so after 20yrs, the old Paasche single action is getting a bit tedious. Bottle cleaning, needle / tip cleaning, and general bad temperament has caused me to think about giving it to the wife. And getting me a new one.  Question is: with all the new systems out there, what would you guys recommend ? Back in the day, Badger was the big deal, but I know things have changed. Iwata, Aztek, etc ....... but there are others too. Just checked out Bear Air and there were brands there I'd never heard of before. Basically what I'm used to is bottle fed / two piece tips, and I still use an old Paasche D-500 piston compressor lol ! I've never even tried the gravity feed on my old brush. But I really like the bottles, cause I can just swap colors / clear / thinner in an instant. But it does add three more places for clogs to ruin your paint session. And lets face it, my bottles are on their last legs. I could buy more, but I figure it's time for an upgrade. Oh, and price range,......... under $200 would please the wife Mike |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 0:55:03 GMT -7
I have been using a Paasche VL dual action for 25 years, and only ever replaced 1 o,ring, i use the fill cup that hangs off the side, that way i can also have 3-4 colors in the jars and top up as needed,
with a quick flush between color changes. I always pull the AB apart after each usage and leave all the bits in a jar of thinners, so next time i need it, it is always clean and ready to go, and only takes a minute to assemble it.
Each to their own, but quality does last i think.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 1:05:17 GMT -7
Thanks Dee Cee !
Mine is the old H model, single action, external mix. I've been thinking of going to double action / internal mix. What you think about the Paasche Talon ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 2:11:07 GMT -7
I can't comment on any other AB mate, as the VL dual is the only one i have used, but which ever you go with, i recommend dual action, it gives you so much more
scope to do different thing with your paint once you get used to the two movements, it can also be used a a single, so you can take it slowly, and still use it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 7:10:24 GMT -7
I have an Aztek one that I use from time to time. It does have the bottle option and different screw on nozzles for quick changes. Takes to long to spray bodies so I use it for detailing only which is rare lol. I do however use a GREX Tritium TG3 double action pistol style airbrush. It is gravity feed but all stainless steel so super easy to clean. Taking it apart takes a few seconds. Grex does have a couple of different ones too. I've never had to replace anything. Well not yet anyways. I would say look,at a couple in person if possible and hold them in your hand. See how they feel too. I was never able to get used to the usual double action airbrushes with their press and pull so this one with a trigger worked for me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 8:25:25 GMT -7
Iceman - that Grex is sexy ! I love the ergonomic handle, is it a urethane grip ? I'm not too big on the press / pull design either. I have a pinched nerve in my neck, and long story short, can't feel my right thumb / forefinger to well. This trigger might be just the trick.
How does it fair with a piston style comp, or do you use a comp w/ a tank ? I figure gravity feed doesn't need as much air pressure. I'd like to keep my old Paasche D-500.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 8:48:38 GMT -7
I've only used the piston style compressors. The one I have now is quiet and the wife appreciates that. Automatic shutoff integrated pressure gauge, oil less pistons. It was a great investment. Cost,y but worth the price. I would test out whatever you get with the company you have now and see how it work. New hose of course but maybe you don't need to spend the extra money on a compressor. I bought mine at different times because I couldn't afford to splurge on both together.
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Post by CoyoteCrunch on Dec 4, 2014 13:01:48 GMT -7
I should take some pictures of the airbrush equipment I have at home, and never used, and you guys could tell me how to hook it up and use it.
Then you can also tell me how dumb I am, LOL........... running-around-smiley-emoticon
I just have no clue on how to hook it up and use it, but I do want to learn. Doesn't seem like it would be hard to figure out, but some of the things you guys say about mixing, thinning, etc - etc do confuse me. Guess I just need to see if I can slap it together and start spraying things |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 14:27:08 GMT -7
I should take some pictures of the airbrush equipment I have at home, and never used, and you guys could tell me how to hook it up and use it.
Then you can also tell me how dumb I am, LOL........... running-around-smiley-emoticon
I just have no clue on how to hook it up and use it, but I do want to learn. Doesn't seem like it would be hard to figure out, but some of the things you guys say about mixing, thinning, etc - etc do confuse me. Guess I just need to see if I can slap it together and start spraying things Cheap practice material = bottle of water w/ food coloring (use for "paint") and paper towels for a canvas. You can learn how to manage the trigger and spray volume without wasting a bunch of good paint. |
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Post by CoyoteCrunch on Dec 4, 2014 15:23:58 GMT -7
hey - that's an awesome idea man - I will do just that, thanks a lot!
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Post by sharp on Dec 4, 2014 18:39:07 GMT -7
I should take some pictures of the airbrush equipment I have at home, and never used, and you guys could tell me how to hook it up and use it.
Then you can also tell me how dumb I am, LOL........... running-around-smiley-emoticon
I just have no clue on how to hook it up and use it, but I do want to learn. Doesn't seem like it would be hard to figure out, but some of the things you guys say about mixing, thinning, etc - etc do confuse me. Guess I just need to see if I can slap it together and start spraying things coyote,go on utube there is a lot you can see and learn about mixing paints and airbrushing. |
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Post by Big D on Dec 4, 2014 20:27:40 GMT -7
CC, I'm with you, I have a brand new Paasche with compressor and all the extras I want to learn to use. Mike is right about you tube. I also bought the Don Yost air brushing video and it's good.
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Post by sharp on Dec 4, 2014 21:25:50 GMT -7
Dennis,I learned a lot about airbrushing on u tube and also some model building tricks, I just started building models
about four years ago.the last time I built models before that was back in the 70s..lol modeling came a long way since then.
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Post by Big D on Dec 4, 2014 22:29:12 GMT -7
Same with me Mike, as you know, I just started back 4 years ago myself. I've been looking at videos on you tube also and there are some really good ones there. One thing that helped me a lot when I first started building again {I had not built anything since the '60's} was I met an old master modeler with 50 yrs experience from Las Vegas and he started teaching me tricks and things he knew. He was really good. He taught me what kits to buy and some building techniques and we were just getting started on painting when he died. He really gave me a boost getting started back.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 1:39:41 GMT -7
I myself, learned on an old Badger single action.........Granted, since that time I think I've used all sorts of air brushes. Again, NONE of the newer models out there, I've heard good things on the Aztek, and a few others I can't even spell (LOL) But anyway, because I have liked the Paache, and Badger types, I bought a new Badger dual action 150-4 model some time ago, (I think its coming up on 8 years old, now....) And I love the thing! Again the compressor running this 'brush is an old Montgomery Ward compressor rated to 45 PSI, thing is loud but works GREAT....AND its oil less! I got an air dryer on it, and valve as well as a gauge for pressure. This same compressor runs my Air Brush, my mini Badger Sand blaster (Also used for Etching) and my dust blower near my mill & lathe....WITH a manifold to couple it to a oil;er thats coming (MAYBE) as its something I'm designing to spray low volume machine coolant onto the part and bit being machined....
But, I have to say, I like me ole stand by Badger brush, and sand blaster.....Hard to beat tried and true tools! The design I bet is 30 years old still made and Badger still sells these brand new! Granted, I've used single action and I really am not a fan of them, They're good for quick stuff, BUT I like and love the ability to control flow as well as pressure and paint volume............
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