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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 10:20:52 GMT -7
I am just WTH, is with the ebay sellers and listing the price of the model as the starting price, for what it sell for normally....? My local place told me that these are difficult to find, BUT he also told me they say this and then you look dodge vans up on ebay, '70's and '80's, and there are A LOT of them, but they was damn near ridiculous prices for them... Dodge trucks aren't so bad tho.......... But here I am wanting to get at least 2 Dodge Vans, and at the price they are, I can't say thats gonna happen!
GAWD, that really takes us poah folk right out of the hobby! Figures, I'd have to be a woman, and want the most expensive freakin models made! running-around-smiley-emoticon
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 10:35:00 GMT -7
It's like everything else, John. The demand and rarity of these will always dictate the price. Be patient and look often. Maybe you can grab one at a lower price one of these days.
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Post by Skip-O-Matic on Nov 24, 2014 14:55:50 GMT -7
Ditto on what Ice said. Be patient and keep watching them, eventually one will slip through the cracks at a price you're happy with and be the only one bidding. Sometimes you will see one list with a low buy it now option, but you better pull the trigger fast, cause it won't last long.
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Post by CoyoteCrunch on Nov 24, 2014 17:12:39 GMT -7
Hemi - just a tip, change around your wording in the search box. Even misspell words intentionally. I find a bunch of stuff in odd categories. Sometimes you find a "life like" garage sale when they list the item in the wrong category. But for sure, change around the words in the search box, and always make sure you are searching, "all categories". And I usually hit the drop down and search newly listed, instead of best match, can sometimes help you find what you are looking for.
Just a tip from your fellow Mopar / Cuda lover!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 8:06:20 GMT -7
Thanks guys! For the positive outlook, thats freakin scary!c WOW! Specially for those of us right now in a limited budget anyway, (I count myself lucky) to have gotten my Jo-Hans 426 Hemi that I posted pics of in New Acquisitions, "Hemi's new stuff"....That thing normally just the engine is going for $30 plus! I got it for I THINK it was $6 OR $9 shipped! Really tho, I didn't want it for the whole thing, I was after those damned headers on it, those are the only existing original 1964 426 Hemi headers I've seen, made by Jo-Hans and they done a FINE job at making them! This one (well 2 details) on that engine is what makes it so collectable and valueable, those headers alone!
CC, I'll have to remember that! I may have to PM you to get a few ideas on what exactly you mean by that! BUT that could turn out a good tip for Ebay! HMmmmmm thinking-hard-smiley-emoticon
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 12:59:53 GMT -7
Well an update....
I didn't get the older Van I'd have liked too, BUT I did get a couple of NEWER ones......NOT the same but this project might change over time and all but, I got a start on Vans at this point!
NOW to try an locate some of the older late '70's early 80's vans for a realistic (affordable) price!!!!!!
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Post by impcon on Dec 19, 2014 8:49:13 GMT -7
With all due respect, I am not so sure that these rising prices are due to anything but simple greed on the parts of the sellers and foolishness on the part of some buyers. The guys who either have deep pockets or just want the item now regardless of price and don't care are driving the prices into the realms of stupidity. It's more and more difficult to find a good deal and this hobby is going the same way that the real 1:1 hobby has gone - to the point where only the wealthy can afford a nice car. Real cars are talked about now as "investments" - what the hell happened to the "hobby"? Greed is what happened and greed is what it is all about. I wonder how long it will be before the word "investment" creeps into this hobby, effectively destroying it.
I live in Canada just a few miles from the border yet our kits in this country are higher priced than in the U.S. by a substantial margin. Yet I see vendors on Ebay asking more for a current kit than what I can buy it from my local hobby shop before converting to Canadian dollars and adding on the shipping. It's not such a good place to shop any more. I just bought some strip styrene from my LHS or less ( before exchange and shipping ) than what it sells for on Ebay. That little store is going to be getting the lions share of my modeling money, I can promise you. He carries a very extensive line of models on all subjects and he does mail order too for guys in Canada that may be interested. I am not in any affiliated with him, but I'll support him before an on line vendor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 14:10:26 GMT -7
Have to really watch yourself on E bay. Some of the sellers think there stuff is made of gold. I've been buying for a few years now and it takes patience and a lot of looking to find a good deal some times. The way you type in your search can and will sometimes make a big difference as to what you find.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 17:29:21 GMT -7
Have to really watch yourself on E bay. Some of the sellers think there stuff is made of gold. I've been buying for a few years now and it takes patience and a lot of looking to find a good deal some times. The way you type in your search can and will sometimes make a big difference as to what you find. I agree. And not so much because I'm a seller there but any time I'm looking for a kit, I just wait til I find one at a reasonable price. There are sellers that over price some of their stuff and then there's those with shill bidding but that's another thread. To give you an example, I just bought three of the Flintstone resin chopped metro delivery vans for less than 10% of the asking price. I've been patient for this one for a couple of year. While silly buyers do drive up the price, like Impcon said, my rule is if I don't like the price I don't buy. That simple.
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Post by jbailey on Dec 19, 2014 17:53:15 GMT -7
Yep, I agree with Ice. If I find a kit I want and its too much, I search daily till I find one I'm comfortable buying. I've been using eBay for 9 years and have only had one problem, it was over a $10 movie and kinda my own fault for not paying enough attention.
EBay can be a great place to score great stuff at bargain prices, you just have to know how, when, and where to look. Chances are if its selling for primo money, wait a month for the bidding craze to be over then make your move!
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Post by stitchdup on Dec 19, 2014 18:15:51 GMT -7
If you cant find what your wanting at a decent price on ebay.com try ebay.co.uk. you might be lucky, depending on the exchange rate, as it seems some of the older US kits go for lower prices, especially if its an opened box. Some of the older Tamiya on the other hand are through the roof price wise this side of the pond. Also if the shipping to the US is high try and pm me because I am happy to purchase and ship for you guys on here. buy it now would be my preference for the buying method, or if you want to bid you can send it to me and I will ship onwards. All I would ask is for the favour to be returned if I need it
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Post by stitchdup on Dec 19, 2014 18:22:46 GMT -7
Forgot to say I can ship for roughly $20 for one kit but dont know for more. If the ebay option is cheaper use it. Also if you are happy to have the kit sent in 2 packages of under 250 grams I can ship for less, roughly 12-15 a kit
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Post by impcon on Dec 20, 2014 9:52:55 GMT -7
Many of the sellers are just two legged lemmings - monkey see - monkey do. The see sellers offering their wares at above MSRP and they seem to get greedy and go for the same. What is even ore insane is the fools who pay those prices! I mean - hello??? Why offer a currently available model for $35.00 when you buy it in any store for much less and through reputable on line dealers, even less with believable shipping charges? It's all greed based and preying on the short of mind who buy on impulse. Sadly, it's screwing this up for everybody.
It wasn't so long ago that hardly anyone was selling parts - now, there are scores of vendors breaking kits up and the price variations are huge in the price of the product and the shipping. There are still good deals but I watched a engine for a '63 Fairlane sell for $30.00 awhile back.. and it was built and painted!! I cringe at how many unbuilt old models are being broken up and trust me, this is all going to get as messed up as the real 1:1 has gotten.The supply will dwindle and as it does, prices will go beyond the reach of many of who live on a limited budget or a pension. Some already sell regularly for in excess of $100.00 and then shipping. SO yeah, I am grateful that I have what I have because this EBay thing isn't nearly as much fun any more.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 10:24:08 GMT -7
I'm still not sure I understand your rant. I don't see how it's "screwing it up for everybody." Any business sets prices based on the competition. It's been like that for longer than we've been around. Demand drives supply and sets prices. If people are paying over the MSRP why shouldn't they sell it at those prices. About selling parts, it works and it works very well. You forget that junk yards do the exact same thing and people would rather pay for juts a part than an entire car, 1:1 or 1/24.
Think of it as gas prices. If you don't like it, keep driving.
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Post by impcon on Dec 20, 2014 14:43:19 GMT -7
I'm still not sure I understand your rant. I don't see how it's "screwing it up for everybody." Any business sets prices based on the competition. It's been like that for longer than we've been around. Demand drives supply and sets prices. If people are paying over the MSRP why shouldn't they sell it at those prices. About selling parts, it works and it works very well. You forget that junk yards do the exact same thing and people would rather pay for juts a part than an entire car, 1:1 or 1/24. Think of it as gas prices. If you don't like it, keep driving. Sorry - respectfully, what I said was a personal observation and opinion and it wasn't meant to be a rant so no further comments.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 19:41:42 GMT -7
No need for an apology. Lol. I was trying to understand your point of view.
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