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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 11:00:04 GMT -7
My Dad had a real car like this, that I remember seeing, NOT, it got traded off, (A whole OTHER story), but I got a picture of the real car and thought I'd model it, just because, well it was my Dad's, and its a Mopar.... The real car, however had a 318 in it. With that, I went the route to use the small block that came with the Little Red Wagon as that is a 273, and the 318 was built off the same block and so, used it, BUT I'm rethinking it, as the 273, really, had a look all of its own, even tho, the block was the same except for inside bore. So I thought why not? Sadly, I found out "why not"? It looks really nothing like a "318" on the outside so.... Anyway, I got the frame ready for the motor (thought I had the motor done) but thats all gonna change! BUT, heres some pictures of the start:   This ----^ Is the model of the 273, I was going to use as a "318" but have since, changed my mind....I "souped" it up a bit by adding a 2X4 intake to have 2, four barrels on it. BUT that too, was never done EVEN THO I had found the intake at my Dads shop so....(Needless to say, he spoke of it, but it never got done and he had traded off the car anyway....My guess was that if he kept the car, he would have added that to it, BUT, it never happened, partially because the intake may have been in a place he wasn't able to either find it quickly, or simply didn't know where it was! (I've found these same intakes are a bit pricey too!) Specially for the Mopar "LA" 318!  This green is a 2 part coating, I used a Testors Flat Beret Green base/primer to allow it to dry, wet sanded lightly, to then add a color coat of Testors Model Masters Gloss Bristish Green Metallic, This color was wet sanded as well, and between each coat it was wet sanded to equal 3 coats the last coat looks GREAT! I think so far, it turned out pretty well! NOW, I need to figure out the engine and get that sorted as the frame is just about done and ready for the engine! More to come as I progress! As always, ENJOY! |
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Post by CoyoteCrunch on Aug 12, 2014 13:46:01 GMT -7
Really liking that dark green!!
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Post by Gothicz House Of Kustomz on Aug 13, 2014 10:22:01 GMT -7
Nice work, clean.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 13:46:30 GMT -7
Thanks guys! I have ta say tho, at first, I HATED that green! BUT it has since grown on me....Kinda like the real car did. I mean it was Dad's so.....
The part on the model that gets me is that metal flake paint, I can not say how difficult it is to shoot pics of it is, As these were the "cleanest" pics I could get as the metal flake gleamed in the other shots so bad it looked like dirt specs in the paint and sadly, there isn't a single one so this whole car, is clean.....Smooth as glass! BUT I paint, the models, the same way I would a REAL car! Just with a smaller amount of paint in the cup....There are 4 light coats of paint on this model seen here. I will however be changing that motor as I said, I'm not happy with it...Got a few "better" ideas for the 318 that was in the real car.....
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Post by gardnerpag44 on Aug 13, 2014 13:46:41 GMT -7
Looking really good like that color very cool  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 13:51:13 GMT -7
Thanks Paul! Thats as close as I can get the color to be from the pictures I have of the real car my Dad had! I don't think the real car had any metal flake BUT.....I know its close, (The picture I have is of the car, BUT, its an old picture and the distance from the camera then to the car was a bit to say the least to get the "whole" car in the shot).....PLUS, I think the picture was taken with an old Polaroid camera too! A lot of variables involved in this one.....
BUT, I'm pleased with the exterior, its the motor I'm fighting with now, (I want to find a good small block to make a 318 to go under the hood as the real one had!)
Got any 273's or 340's that could be used, and molded for our trade? LOL The 340 be a better way to get the Mopar LA 318, 340, and 360 as they all sort of looked the same in the '70's....
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Post by gardnerpag44 on Aug 13, 2014 13:55:31 GMT -7
I'll check and let you know |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 14:20:33 GMT -7
...thank you! I sure do appreciate that! Not much was ever modeled for small block Mopar....
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Post by tool on Aug 14, 2014 10:37:31 GMT -7
lookin good !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 16:33:49 GMT -7
Cool work. For an engine, please yourself. From my view that one looks fine. I think sometimes builders are too hard on themselves. As to the green color, yes, it doesn't catch the eye like a bright color. BUT, back then, and I don't know why, all the car companies had green as a color and they sold. The dark GM green was on all their cars. Maybe green subconsciously picked as Vietnam and green of every shade was on the nightly news.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 2:01:28 GMT -7
That is coming along great mate, i love the color too, my dad had one of these when i was a lad too, but the Aussie version,
slightly different front sheet metal and grill, was also dark green after he finished with it but only has the 245 Hemi 3 speed.
I think this is why i have Valiants, as dad had quite a few over the years.
Keep at this one mate, i like it!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 11:49:40 GMT -7
Thanks guys! As I'm sure all of you know this was a brand new model when I boughti t some time ago....I had a 50% coupon to use so, I got it for a REALLY good price like $8.00 as it was on the "sale" table at that store so....But, the car, I want it be a "replica" so the 318 well....I've got too, in order to be a replica, sadly, I got a 440 Wedge motor with the kit as a "Street" engine and the 426 Hemi as the "race" engine....My Dad, if it had a Hemi in it I KNOW it would not have gone traded as it did with the 318....BUT like I said the 318 was a big different looking then the 273, and it really shows here! The 318 really looked externally more like the 340/360 Really the only difference was then cylinder bores of all 3 of them! BUT the block for ALL 273 to the 360 "LA" motors were the same externally ALL had the same block casting just bored differently, and had different head set ups which gave-way to a different looking valve covers EXCEPT for the 318 to 360 they all had valve covers to bolt onto ANY head type made for those engines....So were pretty much identical on the outside....Whole other L-O-N-G story for another time!
Just being a perfectionist, a Mopar Guy and modeler all in one, I can see the 273 to 318 differences! LOL
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 15:45:01 GMT -7
Well guys, a bit of a "typed" update..... I spoke of the engine, thats seen here. its a Mopar "LA" 273, V-8, the "LA" means "Light A", meaning the "A" engines were heavy, and they were they were known as Poly-Head, which is the Hemi with a twist in the combustion chamber, but anyway thats a story for another time! The A engines came first, and they were heavy due to their design, the LA followed small block followed to replace the heavy small blocks, and to that the 273 was thee smallest "LA" engine made, The block however was the base to Mopar's famous "318" BUT it had slightly bigger heads and completely different valve covers. So the "look" of the engines were in fact different! The 273 however, was expensive to get performance parts for it, SO a lot of times was pulled out and a 318 went in place, as they were pretty much the same size on the outside just designed differently on the inside! But it would have been much easier to get a 4 barrel intake for the 318 and a bunch less costly then to do the same for the 273....So, with that all said, My Dad's '68 Dart, being what it was, had a Mopar "LA" 318 in it. WHEN I bought the model ALL I had to use for the 318 is whats seen in my avbove postings, which came from the Lindberg A100 kit thats to be the Little Red WEagon model, NOW on other hand, I got a few molds made and casting my own details for engines and complete engines, so, with that said, have a look and compare... This ---^ Thats a Mopar "LA" 273.... THEN:  That ---^ Is a true Mopar "LA" 318!!!! This Blue one however, is my own casting! Which can also be used for not only the blue Mopar "LA" 318, BUT the older version that was red, as the 273....Which dates the blue one to be 1970 to the present 1980-81. The red motors were prior to 1970.....SO a 1968 318, would have been Chrysler Engine Red! Or "Mopar Red".... Now me being my Dads son, and knowing him quite well, I would say that if he added the dual 4 barrel carburetor intake to the 318, he would have also added his "signature" CHROME valve covers, and air cleaner as a "dress up" to the engine. So that being said, I will take another set of my castings and rebuild a red 318 to replace the 273, and have the chrome as my Dad would have seen it to be done on his car, BUT as I said, the intake I found the real one, and I know there were numerous 318 valve covers around his shop including aluminum ones as well as chrome plated ones..... And now a bit more info on the "Mopar Blue" engine seen above..... This motor, as seen could be used as the 273, with the heads and valve covers changed to those seen on the red engine, the blocks would have been the same! Then as you know now, the 318, with the blue engines heads and valve covers, As well as the Mopar "LA" 340, and the Mopar "LA" 360......They ALL looked alike on the outside....SO that one casting, can be used 3 ways and all 3 ways can be customized, with chrome parts, and such to accent the "look" from one build to the other... So with that said, this model is being built as a replica to the car my Dad actually had, and why I'm so adamant on making it look as it should to the real car. I have a picture of the car, BUT its a Polaroid picture, so its not online or on the computer... and really, its not all that great of a pic, its been folded once, and has a rip in the picture in almost the center of it so.....Just above the car. MORE to come as I get the new engine made to take the place of the red one seen here! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 2:20:26 GMT -7
OK a bit of an update...... I got my '57 300 DONE so now its time to pull out ALL those models I "was" one time working on! So this one is the latest.... I had the parts out for a small block Mopar LA engine, so with that, I got to assembling one to make it a "318" as it should be......As really, the 273 I used from the Little Red Wagon "Stock" motor just did NOT look like a 318.....I really am a sucker for details so, if it doesn't look "just-so" to me, yepper, I yank it and start over..... So without further waiting, here is whats happening on this one!  Motor on the right WAS the one I made for it originally...... Motero n the left, is the NEW Mopar LA 318 that will go in its place under the hood! Notice, the left hand motor has a single plane intake... thats how the real car was after talking with my Step-Mom, and finding out Dad did have a dual carburetor intake, BUT it never made it onto the engine of this car.....He kept the intake as about the time of this car, he owned 4 Mopar vehicles, ALL having the Mopar "LA" small Block 318 in them! (Was said he was going to use it on his truck that had a 318 in it.....  another shot. showing that the valve covers are in fact, missing....... they were replaced as the originals were Mopar Engine Red, and my Dad, being my Dad did actually change them, to chrome the same day he bought the car! SO, they are setting waiting to be "chromed"....  Final shot for now, showing the original engine was going ot have "Headers" ANOTHER thing my Dad spoke of and did not see done so, with that the 318 that is to replace the one I built originally, will have exhaust manifolds, NOT headers...... Thats all for now folks.....More to follow as things happen, I'm re-setting the frame to except the new engine so..... The mounts need a slight tweaking in order to make it fit and set properly in the car...... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 3:16:43 GMT -7
So with this going and was setting like it was neglected for so long.....I thought while I was at it, I'd continue on with the "new" engine..... SO, I began "detailing" that poor ole Mopar 318, it looked naked for a bit..... I took and got the Mechanical Fuel Pump in place (was a missing detail on the molded engine of mine) SO got that did, and continued to add details, you'll see its got a Carter AFB Carburetor, and the supply line to it with a filter.  In this picture you can also see peaking around the corner is the carburetor return spring and some linkage that I done!  Other side, you look closely you can see the carb linkage I did as well as this engine got its correct exhaust manifolds as well! BOTH sides! In the very front of the engine, notice that little section of black hose? THIS was on ALL Mopar small blocks! The "LA" series engines, meaning the 273, 318, 340, and the 360! This little hose, connects the water pump with the intake to have a thermostat under the radiator hose! ONE of some such details I have yet to see any one company make on there models even if its a "cast-in" detail! Me being me, and a stickler for details, well I just HAD to have it on the engine! This particular detail of mine was made with a short section of 1/16th inch "leather" necklace jewelry craft cord from Micheal's Craft Stores......Looks GREAT as a "hose", and its cheap! Like $2 for about 10 feet or 15 feet of the stuff! I use it for ALL my "small" diameter hose details!  NOW the engine is starting to take shape! My own small block Mopar castings on the valve covers that I myself "chromed" with Alclad chrome......You look and see that little black hose again, coming from the center of the valve cover? That is the PCV valve hose it leads to the back of the carburetor to try and use ALL "blow-by" that gets past the piston rings to aid a better emission rating! This detail is that same necklace leather cord I mentioned above! Also you can see the wire looms that are mounted to the valve covers. They are like this in real life as well!  GREAT side shot, showing the exhaust manifold and all the detail on this side of the engine currently.  Same thing opposite side. Notice that the 2 exhaust manifolds are different? They are such as they had to get the exhaust pipe down away from the head, but not to close the starter, and if the car going in it, had power steering this made the exhaust a bit difficult to run....SO, they made the manifold reflect that issue! This Dart WILL have power steering!   NICE bright shot......Who said Alclad couldn't be made to look like an actual "plating"  I think it looks GREAT on my Resin castings personally! And for the record, this WHOLE engine, to date is MY CASTING! The block, transmission, both heads, intake, both valve covers, oil pan, timing chain cover and water pump, and the carburetor, the only parts NOT my work are the exhaust manifolds.....They are some difficult to make a mold for that casts correctly every time! Well thats all for now folks, more to be posted when more happens! ENJOY! |
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Post by Big D on Mar 10, 2015 11:34:34 GMT -7
AMAZING BIG JOHN!!!! I try to make a nice model car but you build one from the ground up we can all get in and drive around the model room in!! Very nice work. high-five-smiley-emoticon
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 23:57:31 GMT -7
LOL Thanks Denny! I enjoy all that damned fine details, it makes the model to me, and as frustrating as it may seem or be, I find it fun  Sometimes to the point of being annoying..... BUT once that part is made to look like the real thing I then look in amazement at what I've done and continue on! Thats just me and my detail orientated way.... Plus what gets me, is the "stock" form too. This car, all my Dad did over the stock version was add chrome "stock" valve covers.....As originally they would have been the same color as the engine, Mopar Engine Red....Wasn't till '70 (I think it was) that Mopar Small blocks all were painted Mopar Engine Blue. Thanks guy! The engine is all but done....I just got to get it to "sit" right in the car and allow the firewall and the core support to fit properly, with fan and belts in place with power steering pump, and alternator.... Its REAL close! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 23:36:56 GMT -7
So, a little more for an update on this one......Coming along nicely I must say!  The frame, showing some details added, fuel lines supply and return, single exhaust, and rear brake line as well as rear and front suspension and detailed up nicely!  A better rear of frame shot....showing a bit more details! The exhaust you see, is all made by me and used factory muffler, the pipe is custom bent per the models parts. BUT because this car my Dad owned was powered by a Mopar 318, and had single exhaust, I had to make and still have to make the pipe to be under the car as its all done custom per how the real car was!  Close up of the fuel tank, piping to it. Rearend, and brake line detail as well as a close shot of the exhaust pipe work I done..... More to come as I'm able, I'm trying to getthe engine in the frame so I can finish up the frame on this car as its REAL CLOSE to being done! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 0:04:14 GMT -7
Nice details there young fella!! Great work John.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 1:37:38 GMT -7
Thanks Dale.......... Sadly nothing "special" on this one.....The "special" part is the fact that my Dad owned a real of it so.. was worthy of making a model of that same car...........happen! I am however having a real difficult time NOT adding the white "deck stripe" that came with the kit, as it well, would have looked AWESOME with one, but it was "stock" that way, without the stripe so...... The model itself is coming out GREAT! My next feat on this one is to tackle the interior which was pretty basic, Mopar "Tan" interior, was really nothing special..... Had a little chrome trim in it but nothing real intense in it as far as the interior goes.....I am however gonna have a blast trying to get a bench front seat in it tho.....The model came with bucket seats for both versions of it..... |
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Post by sharp on Mar 15, 2015 6:56:26 GMT -7
Like the detail work you did John,coming along nice!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 21:09:40 GMT -7
Thanks Mike! After my '57 300 was done, I needed to work on something a bit less "involved" (I think thats a good word for this build) BUT still involve a little details in it....As I said tho, its pretty basic of a Muscle Car my Dad owned.....Was not loaded by no sort of the imagination so its a bit "different" that way........ Something other then the 440 Magnum, or the 426 Hemi the kit is normally seen with, as well as having single exhaust, and the odd part, Steel wheels with full on hub caps that sort of look like a older Chrysler type hub cap. I don't know but thee original wheels that came with my '57 300 are AWFUL close to what was on this car when my Dad owned it.....SO that is the wheels I'm using, even tho its odd looking and not 100% its close, and sadly I don't think I could get any closer then that! Making them fit the stock model kits tires was an issue at first, but they are all together and ready to be put onto the car so...... More to come as things happen guys! Yet a 3rd one thats "close"................ |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 10:28:57 GMT -7
Coming along Great...
A good friend of mine ( who I have not been able to contact for over 20 years, but that's a different story) bought one of those New in 68. From Mr Norm - Grand Spalding Dodge . Chicago Ill.
It was the GTS 383 4 spd. Blue with Black Vynl Top. Was a cool car.. We had a LOT of GOOD times in that car..Lot of Street Racing back in those days to.. Anyway your build is coming along Great, Chassis detailing is Excellent, like that color green to..Engine is Killer as usual..
Great Job. Will be following...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 17:02:15 GMT -7
AMAZING BIG JOHN!!!! I try to make a nice model car but you build one from the ground up we can all get in and drive around the model room in!! Very nice work. high-five-smiley-emoticon Denny, I musta replied to your post really early in the AM or I was really tired LOL As I went back and kinda was re-reading posts made, and noticed something I DIDN'T mention and ought to have.... BUT, you do make a nice model!!! In a lot of ways better then some of my own just due to the way you build & detail them.... As you build them for Show, (I think thats a good way to describe what I'm tryin to say here) and I build them a lot of times "stock", not necessarily for "show", if that makes any sense! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 17:08:52 GMT -7
Coming along Great... A good friend of mine ( who I have not been able to contact for over 20 years, but that's a different story) bought one of those New in 68. From Mr Norm - Grand Spalding Dodge . Chicago Ill. It was the GTS 383 4 spd. Blue with Black Vynl Top. Was a cool car.. We had a LOT of GOOD times in that car..Lot of Street Racing back in those days to.. Anyway your build is coming along Great, Chassis detailing is Excellent, like that color green to..Engine is Killer as usual.. Great Job. Will be following... Tom, Its a bit less intense then the 300.....The 318 is going in without as lot of trouble (The 300 and that "beast" I put in it for a power plant well, that was some intense!), this little stock 318 is a bunch simpler to install then a twin turbo'd beast that the 300 got..... Then you toss in the "stock" details to this model where they all over the place for the 300 due to the engine so. that makes it less intense all by itself! As far as a real one, well I built one many years ago, That I think was a 383 too in a GTS.....Wasn't a Dr. Norms tho. it was just a regular ole local Dart from the local Dodge Garage..... A 383 make that little car go like mad tho..............Good cars they were, no matter what engine was in them! Sporty lookin little things even if it had a Slant 6 in it! Muscle car look, with a Grocery Getter engine...... |
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Post by kpnuts on Mar 22, 2015 2:21:20 GMT -7
Great work going on here, I aspire to be as good, keep it up mate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 3:00:36 GMT -7
Thanks KP.....Much appreciated too! You do GREAT work yourself, no need to aspire to be......you really do some nice work that weathering work you do is amazing!
I got to admit, I myself like 'em shiny and new lookin' for "show" cars so......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 13:30:57 GMT -7
-Sadly, a short update, this model has been put on hold..... it some how managed to get on the floor and one of 2 people stepped on the shell with the hood "setting" in place so..... only the body tho and hood as the frame and all were in the kits box and safe. So, I'm now on a hunt for a shell to do all over again!  So till one is gotten, this kit is on hold! |
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Sometimes to the point of being annoying..... BUT once that part is made to look like the real thing I then look in amazement at what I've done and continue on!
