Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 14:13:09 GMT -7
Group of crazy modelers like myself,
I picked up an older Model at Hobbytown USA that was a "Backroom special" Why? The local store to me got a liquidated purchase from a guy that I was told was a model car hoarder, (yeah at this time, I'm liking what I'm hearing) so I start in, do you have.....
Goes on and on my wife says I'm headed over to Hobby Lobby, I'll catch ya there when your through here....So she leaves and takes my little girl with her....
As she walks out, is when I said so there are "others" the guy I normally deal with, sure there is, partially built ones that we can not display out here due to the franchise but, to guys we know we can sell them "As-is" So, then lets go have a look the next words outta my mouth, followed by "if ya don't mind me in the back rooms (2 locations to the store)
We go....And holy good GAWD, yes this guy who owned them prior to HobbyTown getting them, WAS a hoarder! I bet there musta been 500 partially built models in the back to rooms! They had all of the "new" unopened stuff, out front. BUT these opened partially built models I was in my glory, LOL
So I started asking if he saw anything "Mopar" he looked at me and i was like Dodge, Plymouth, Chrysler, Jeep.......... yep a few in both areas! I was like cool lets go have a look, I was actually seeking out specific models but he had a few, one being Daisy Dukes CJ-5 Jeep, "Dixie".... Its been YEARS since I've seen this model for sale on the shelves, so....He finds it and brings it to me, and I have a look, its missing the decals....Seems to be otherwise all there...
So I ask, what ya take? He looks hows $3.00 sound? GONE! Then I found a pretty much NEW '70 Plymouth Roadrunner, $5.00 Wheels were missing, $5.00 GONE! Then he pulls out a box of parts to a Little Red Wagon, $2.00 GONE, Then a Daisy Dukes '74 Roadrunner, $12.00 ALMOST brand NEW! GONE, Then he slips out a '70 Dodge Super Bee Pro-Street, $5.00 GONE. All in all, I didn't pay the suggested price at the very time, I had, $20 cash in pocket....I got them all for 20 bucks!
This was what the frame looked like right out of the box after I got home, I got to looking a bit better only to find that the engine was missing half its self! Was "OK" its a 4 banger so....I have in my parts stash, a AMC 401 C.I.D. that came from a member to the forums here that was extra due to the model he had in real life had a different engine in it. SO, now Daisy's Jeep has a pretty big V-8 for a Jeep...
Now its got a bit more details on it, Spark plug wires, Distributor cap, Fan belts, dual Alternators, as the Jeep when done will have dual batteries, to keep her cousins Bo and Luke out of trouble with a dead battery in the General....
sorry Daisy, your 401 will only be getting a 2 barrel carburetor....Don't have a 4 barrel to fit it, replied Cooter!
Then to get a "test fit" as the V-8 is a bit bigger then the 4 popper that once was in here....
Man BARELY it fits will have to do some shoe-horning on the radiator to get it all neatly under the hood!
I had gotten the frame painted, and the shocks painted (I didn't stripe it, the paint was not bad and made for a good bases -as-is so went right over top with some thinned out flat black in the air brush....
To see the shocks detail a bit better:
Then I went and got some more added to the AMC 401 V-8 I added under the hood....It got 2 Alterators, as it will have dual batteries (Daisy has to keep those 2 cousins of hers outta trouble some how!)
As for the dual battery and Alternator details, I also wired up the starter, added in the fuel linkage and return spring to the carburetor, AND got the Emergency Brake/Parking brake connections in place.
Quite a bit of detail on the engine, along! Have a look!
These pics were taken last night, and tonight I got even further! Those will come some time tomorrow!
All of these "loose" wires will be in place to the body as they have to be let loose till the body of the Jeep is ready to be connected to the frame as they have specific places to go, AND, I have to make space for dual batteries, AND add a Master Cylinder for regular brake use, as the kit did not have this detail, and I added drum brakes in the rear, and will have disk brakes in the front.....All of "that" is currently "in-place"....
So, as I sat here, I seen that there were a few more pics to add, SO without leaving it "at-that" for tonight....I thought I'd depict how I was going to add dual batteries under the hood....
In the "Stock" location. I seen that the model kit had NO offering for battery detail. I just HAD to add it, (just because, well, thats me and how I am!) So. I got to looking, the engine had this "Emissions pump" apparatus on it, that I'm not familiar with so, I removed that (A Emissions pump? What-the...) SO, in "that" location is where I added a "generator, NOT a Alternator! This, would have been used for a winch, of all things on a Jeep right? OR a set of EXTRA jumpers for those crazy cousins of Daisy's to get them out of a fix they got themself in, as the 2 of them were always up to something so........
From this picture ---^
You can see there is no "battery box, or battery mount" anywhere, it should be, on the right side of the Jeep, if your setting in the vehicle. No such detail, not even depicted in the instructions. SO, I'm making my own, BUT to make that even more difficult, I'm adding TWO of them! To that same "AMC factory location"....Hence the pencil marks on the inner fender well. Thats just a guide tho, I'm going to "Machine" cut that area out of the model....It has to be flat, level, and some-what able to look as a "shelf" to hold 2 batteries, as tho Cooter himself, added it to the original gotten as-is Jeep.
Which I ought to spill some beans on my "details" as well here and now.... Looking at all the pictures of the engine specifically, you will notice, the "colors" of wires doesn't always "match" as a "matched set" as you would purchase them, in real life. Why you ask didn't I match them? WELL, Cooter doing the work, Daisy driving it around and being from the Duke family, they were spending money on other things, they tried to survive and keep what little cash that they had. SO, matching sets weren't an issue, a working vehicle was! SO, necessity/function over looks prevailed! Hence, myself, ALL the wires in this one model are LEFT OVERS from others, I've already done! Granted, I have not used ALL of the left overs, but a good portion of them, are in fact seen here!
So back to this posting....
This picture ---^
Shows the thinned grille and body connection, to fit a radiator in that area, and keep wit within the confines of the Jeeps "Engine compartment" Looks like that 401 isn't to big after-all!
Things are happening FAST. SO, one of the things I have to learn is to get pictures even faster then the speed any one thing is going together. (Thats a learning experience all in itself!)
Its now on its own wheels and tires! BUT these tires, have a story, they were NOT the ones with the kit! See, when I bought this kit, I found that those with it, did not fit correctly, the tires were cut out to large on the inside to take the rims that were to be in them to be "Daisy Dukes Jeep" so. Was stumped for a couple days on how I was going to go about this task. Then, it dawned on me, I had these "Military" tires that had rims cast into them, all in one piece. Sadly, I had to ruin the set I bought for a whooping $3.00 a box, that went with a well known Taiwanese model part company. But, I center drilled the rims out, and re fitted the left over tire with the rims originally with Daisys Jeep! I had thought first to use the "bigger" wheels I had till I seen the sheer size of them, and went tot he smaller ones that were in the kit, and were actual the same size as the factory ones! And look just as good!
This shot shows the nicely added 5th tire, for use as the "Spare".... GREAT downward looking shot as well, over the frame! I have yet to paint the spare "mount" to be colored to match the body of the Jeep!
Because of the frame and the origin of this kit, I bought it used it had some slight....issues, shall we say. That well both rear axles needed re-built, re-designed, something just the whole set up as messed up and the guy who did it well. I'm not sure "looking" over the model said exactly, what his intentions were....BUT, because of this, the front rear had a really "WIDE" stance, why? I'm not sure, I tried every trick I could to make it more narrow, BEFORE mounting it to the suspension, and it still had a good 1/8th to much on BOTH side so a quart inch to wide. SO, what I did was take and make the "steering" do a little.....With the vehicle looking as it was to take a left or right turn with the wheels as follows, helped A LOT, as it hides that issue pretty well I do believe!
I think it looks really well, considering what it did look like when I first began to study the parts within the box after getting home!
This picture is a close up depicted as so, to show the detail, I went and added in all the rear brake lines! They cross the rear axle, and then to a "T" joint, to then run up to the cross-member as in real life....To the drivers side frame rail, to the front where the Master Cylinder will be located on the firewall.
This is the "Frame work" done, the following pictures are of "Moch-Up" of the engine and body setting onto the frame to clearing and looking to make sure all comes together!
So then, with the frame looking this good and my energy being so intense at this time of the things completed, I had to test fit everything as the steering axle being well, in a steered position....
I had to see if they were "turned" to tight for the body! And as seen they aren't they turned out VERY well this way. Plus with the wheel issues mentioned, I also had questioned fit of everything as it was being assembled, BEFORE the rear axle was placed to "stay" onto the suspension, I tested the fit of the tires with them able to be removed as they are now, they don't spin freely. I do that purposely tho, I learned the hard way all that hard work can land it on the floor in a million pieces and the breakage just isn't worth it PLUS, I display at a couple local places and would NOT want to hear that one of my nicest models wound up on the floor or bottom of the displace case because they "roll"....So, yeah, don't happen! Pretty good clearance overall front to back, and all around looks....(The height seems high, but isn't really) I have Nerf type "steps" to add to both sides for Daisy to get in and out....These probably pre-date the actual "Nerf" brand by 10 years LOL
Showing the engine in place, but not mounted!
Last but not least for now, from the rear.......... More to come as more progress is made! ENJOY!!!!
I picked up an older Model at Hobbytown USA that was a "Backroom special" Why? The local store to me got a liquidated purchase from a guy that I was told was a model car hoarder, (yeah at this time, I'm liking what I'm hearing) so I start in, do you have.....
Goes on and on my wife says I'm headed over to Hobby Lobby, I'll catch ya there when your through here....So she leaves and takes my little girl with her....
As she walks out, is when I said so there are "others" the guy I normally deal with, sure there is, partially built ones that we can not display out here due to the franchise but, to guys we know we can sell them "As-is" So, then lets go have a look the next words outta my mouth, followed by "if ya don't mind me in the back rooms (2 locations to the store)
We go....And holy good GAWD, yes this guy who owned them prior to HobbyTown getting them, WAS a hoarder! I bet there musta been 500 partially built models in the back to rooms! They had all of the "new" unopened stuff, out front. BUT these opened partially built models I was in my glory, LOL
So I started asking if he saw anything "Mopar" he looked at me and i was like Dodge, Plymouth, Chrysler, Jeep.......... yep a few in both areas! I was like cool lets go have a look, I was actually seeking out specific models but he had a few, one being Daisy Dukes CJ-5 Jeep, "Dixie".... Its been YEARS since I've seen this model for sale on the shelves, so....He finds it and brings it to me, and I have a look, its missing the decals....Seems to be otherwise all there...
So I ask, what ya take? He looks hows $3.00 sound? GONE! Then I found a pretty much NEW '70 Plymouth Roadrunner, $5.00 Wheels were missing, $5.00 GONE! Then he pulls out a box of parts to a Little Red Wagon, $2.00 GONE, Then a Daisy Dukes '74 Roadrunner, $12.00 ALMOST brand NEW! GONE, Then he slips out a '70 Dodge Super Bee Pro-Street, $5.00 GONE. All in all, I didn't pay the suggested price at the very time, I had, $20 cash in pocket....I got them all for 20 bucks!
This was what the frame looked like right out of the box after I got home, I got to looking a bit better only to find that the engine was missing half its self! Was "OK" its a 4 banger so....I have in my parts stash, a AMC 401 C.I.D. that came from a member to the forums here that was extra due to the model he had in real life had a different engine in it. SO, now Daisy's Jeep has a pretty big V-8 for a Jeep...
Now its got a bit more details on it, Spark plug wires, Distributor cap, Fan belts, dual Alternators, as the Jeep when done will have dual batteries, to keep her cousins Bo and Luke out of trouble with a dead battery in the General....
sorry Daisy, your 401 will only be getting a 2 barrel carburetor....Don't have a 4 barrel to fit it, replied Cooter!
Then to get a "test fit" as the V-8 is a bit bigger then the 4 popper that once was in here....
Man BARELY it fits will have to do some shoe-horning on the radiator to get it all neatly under the hood!
I had gotten the frame painted, and the shocks painted (I didn't stripe it, the paint was not bad and made for a good bases -as-is so went right over top with some thinned out flat black in the air brush....
To see the shocks detail a bit better:
Then I went and got some more added to the AMC 401 V-8 I added under the hood....It got 2 Alterators, as it will have dual batteries (Daisy has to keep those 2 cousins of hers outta trouble some how!)
As for the dual battery and Alternator details, I also wired up the starter, added in the fuel linkage and return spring to the carburetor, AND got the Emergency Brake/Parking brake connections in place.
Quite a bit of detail on the engine, along! Have a look!
These pics were taken last night, and tonight I got even further! Those will come some time tomorrow!
All of these "loose" wires will be in place to the body as they have to be let loose till the body of the Jeep is ready to be connected to the frame as they have specific places to go, AND, I have to make space for dual batteries, AND add a Master Cylinder for regular brake use, as the kit did not have this detail, and I added drum brakes in the rear, and will have disk brakes in the front.....All of "that" is currently "in-place"....
So, as I sat here, I seen that there were a few more pics to add, SO without leaving it "at-that" for tonight....I thought I'd depict how I was going to add dual batteries under the hood....
In the "Stock" location. I seen that the model kit had NO offering for battery detail. I just HAD to add it, (just because, well, thats me and how I am!) So. I got to looking, the engine had this "Emissions pump" apparatus on it, that I'm not familiar with so, I removed that (A Emissions pump? What-the...) SO, in "that" location is where I added a "generator, NOT a Alternator! This, would have been used for a winch, of all things on a Jeep right? OR a set of EXTRA jumpers for those crazy cousins of Daisy's to get them out of a fix they got themself in, as the 2 of them were always up to something so........
From this picture ---^
You can see there is no "battery box, or battery mount" anywhere, it should be, on the right side of the Jeep, if your setting in the vehicle. No such detail, not even depicted in the instructions. SO, I'm making my own, BUT to make that even more difficult, I'm adding TWO of them! To that same "AMC factory location"....Hence the pencil marks on the inner fender well. Thats just a guide tho, I'm going to "Machine" cut that area out of the model....It has to be flat, level, and some-what able to look as a "shelf" to hold 2 batteries, as tho Cooter himself, added it to the original gotten as-is Jeep.
Which I ought to spill some beans on my "details" as well here and now.... Looking at all the pictures of the engine specifically, you will notice, the "colors" of wires doesn't always "match" as a "matched set" as you would purchase them, in real life. Why you ask didn't I match them? WELL, Cooter doing the work, Daisy driving it around and being from the Duke family, they were spending money on other things, they tried to survive and keep what little cash that they had. SO, matching sets weren't an issue, a working vehicle was! SO, necessity/function over looks prevailed! Hence, myself, ALL the wires in this one model are LEFT OVERS from others, I've already done! Granted, I have not used ALL of the left overs, but a good portion of them, are in fact seen here!
So back to this posting....
This picture ---^
Shows the thinned grille and body connection, to fit a radiator in that area, and keep wit within the confines of the Jeeps "Engine compartment" Looks like that 401 isn't to big after-all!
Things are happening FAST. SO, one of the things I have to learn is to get pictures even faster then the speed any one thing is going together. (Thats a learning experience all in itself!)
Its now on its own wheels and tires! BUT these tires, have a story, they were NOT the ones with the kit! See, when I bought this kit, I found that those with it, did not fit correctly, the tires were cut out to large on the inside to take the rims that were to be in them to be "Daisy Dukes Jeep" so. Was stumped for a couple days on how I was going to go about this task. Then, it dawned on me, I had these "Military" tires that had rims cast into them, all in one piece. Sadly, I had to ruin the set I bought for a whooping $3.00 a box, that went with a well known Taiwanese model part company. But, I center drilled the rims out, and re fitted the left over tire with the rims originally with Daisys Jeep! I had thought first to use the "bigger" wheels I had till I seen the sheer size of them, and went tot he smaller ones that were in the kit, and were actual the same size as the factory ones! And look just as good!
This shot shows the nicely added 5th tire, for use as the "Spare".... GREAT downward looking shot as well, over the frame! I have yet to paint the spare "mount" to be colored to match the body of the Jeep!
Because of the frame and the origin of this kit, I bought it used it had some slight....issues, shall we say. That well both rear axles needed re-built, re-designed, something just the whole set up as messed up and the guy who did it well. I'm not sure "looking" over the model said exactly, what his intentions were....BUT, because of this, the front rear had a really "WIDE" stance, why? I'm not sure, I tried every trick I could to make it more narrow, BEFORE mounting it to the suspension, and it still had a good 1/8th to much on BOTH side so a quart inch to wide. SO, what I did was take and make the "steering" do a little.....With the vehicle looking as it was to take a left or right turn with the wheels as follows, helped A LOT, as it hides that issue pretty well I do believe!
I think it looks really well, considering what it did look like when I first began to study the parts within the box after getting home!
This picture is a close up depicted as so, to show the detail, I went and added in all the rear brake lines! They cross the rear axle, and then to a "T" joint, to then run up to the cross-member as in real life....To the drivers side frame rail, to the front where the Master Cylinder will be located on the firewall.
This is the "Frame work" done, the following pictures are of "Moch-Up" of the engine and body setting onto the frame to clearing and looking to make sure all comes together!
So then, with the frame looking this good and my energy being so intense at this time of the things completed, I had to test fit everything as the steering axle being well, in a steered position....
I had to see if they were "turned" to tight for the body! And as seen they aren't they turned out VERY well this way. Plus with the wheel issues mentioned, I also had questioned fit of everything as it was being assembled, BEFORE the rear axle was placed to "stay" onto the suspension, I tested the fit of the tires with them able to be removed as they are now, they don't spin freely. I do that purposely tho, I learned the hard way all that hard work can land it on the floor in a million pieces and the breakage just isn't worth it PLUS, I display at a couple local places and would NOT want to hear that one of my nicest models wound up on the floor or bottom of the displace case because they "roll"....So, yeah, don't happen! Pretty good clearance overall front to back, and all around looks....(The height seems high, but isn't really) I have Nerf type "steps" to add to both sides for Daisy to get in and out....These probably pre-date the actual "Nerf" brand by 10 years LOL
Showing the engine in place, but not mounted!
Last but not least for now, from the rear.......... More to come as more progress is made! ENJOY!!!!
BUT the Roadrunner is a ways off, I had to set it aside as I got at least 2 current models I have got to "Git 'R done" as one of them is being built for a guy that had a real one from another site that asked to have it done so I'm building from VERY little pictures of the real car, (NO, I have not posted a single picture of this car, its not mine even tho its my work....) BUT the other model I'm working on is for the daughter....her car to represent her real live pet rabbit "Long Ears" Which when I'm able, I will post pictures of this one......BUT its as intense as me miolding 300 pieces a night, and I'm doing THAT too, all in the while!
