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Post by jkflash on Jun 24, 2022 10:53:04 GMT -7
It's Friday, you know what that means! Mel! It's time to get the griddle going! Throw some fries down too, these guys are gonna be HUNGRY! This week Mel is going to make up some Philly Cheese Steak sandwiches with thinly sliced beef and cheese whiz on a toasted hoagie bun. My dad and I have the conversation all the time about the differences between muscle cars of the 60s and 70s versus the muscle cars of today. I'll be the first to admit that the original muscle cars were fantastic machines that had soul and you really had to finesse them to drive them whereas today's muscle cars practically drive themselves. However, the one thing that even my dad (who is a hardcore old school fan) will agree with me is today's engines get more horsepower in smaller packages. The modern engines in these cars make more power, are more efficient, and in most cases alot safer to drive. My dad owns several mid 60s Pontiacs and while I think those are great cars he says my 2006 GTO is a totally different animal. So lets see those modern muscle cars: The late model GTOs, Challengers, Mustangs, and Camaros. See you at Mel's!
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Post by Grandpabeast on Jun 26, 2022 6:31:04 GMT -7
Wow, Ill take a philly steak , some fries and a rootbeer ! I would agree Something about old muscle, the sound, the look, the neck snapping torque its the things dreams are made of. Yet with today's technology its hard to beat modern muscle. The horsepower , the reliability, the aerodynamics, Its tough to beat. Soon we will be talking electric muscle and thats a whole new ball game. Then again there is cost, old muscle = $, new muscle = $$ and electric muscle = $$$. Given a choice ( and 50,000.00 ) I will always pick and old muscle car but thats just me and thats not to say I wouldnt love a new muscle or electric muscle. My 2016 Ford has a twin turbo V6 and its pretty fast. All that being said, I looked in my display case and I have no new muscle car builds. I have a couple on my future projects shelf ( a 2010 camaro and an 06 GTO ) but today Im going to need to ride with someone . Great theme Cruise director and I see a future MOTM contest possability !!
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41chevy
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Post by 41chevy on Jun 26, 2022 10:36:03 GMT -7
Wow, Ill take a philly steak , some fries and a rootbeer ! I would agree Something about old muscle, the sound, the look, the neck snapping torque its the things dreams are made of. Yet with today's technology its hard to beat modern muscle. The horsepower , the reliability, the aerodynamics, Its tough to beat. Soon we will be talking electric muscle and thats a whole new ball game. Then again there is cost, old muscle = $, new muscle = $$ and electric muscle = $$$. Given a choice ( and 50,000.00 ) I will always pick and old muscle car but thats just me and thats not to say I wouldnt love a new muscle or electric muscle. My 2016 Ford has a twin turbo V6 and its pretty fast. All that being said, I looked in my display case and I have no new muscle car builds. I have a couple on my future projects shelf ( a 2010 camaro and an 06 GTO ) but today Im going to need to ride with someone . Great theme Cruise director and I see a future MOTM contest possability !! My 55 Bel Air is stone age primitive. GM Performance 540 Big Block, 10/71 blower, 1046 R.W.H.P, 4 speed , 5:13 air lock rear, early 60's Girling double caliper disc brakes (only on rear). Zero creature comforts. No handling, not too good at stopping, but run high 8's @ 159 mph in the quarter. Just going down my driveway you feel exhausted and beat up. Our 2021 Roush Mustang, 750 h.p. 10 speed auto, handles, stops and is quick (3.6 sec. 0 to 60 and 7.0 sec. 0 to 100 to 0) has all the conveniences you could imagine. I still use the Bel Air daily. The new cars too detached IMO.
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Post by jkflash on Jun 27, 2022 10:24:13 GMT -7
This is my 2004 Pontiac GTO. This was a joint venture between Pontiac in the USA and Holden in Australia. I respect just about anything with wheels so I'm not hating on "old school"hot rods, my intent this week was to show some of the newer hotrods that my kids will be working on and calling "classics" when they are of age. As I mentioned before, old school hot rods are awesome, no doubt about it. But there is something about these newer cars with more modern powerplants. I read through 13 pages at one forum where people argued about LS engines and how it was "blasphemous" to put that in a classic Pontiac. The thing is, as I read on the arguments in favor of the old school design were few and it seemed like everytime someone could build a classic Pontiac engine that got the same power the reliability or economy suffered. The newer engine seemed to accel in all areas and could be used as a "best of all worlds" in terms of power, torque, reliability, and economy. I have owned my 2006 GTO since it was new and never had any real repair work needed. It was advertised as 400hp and 400lbft or torque and I used to be able to get near 30mpgs on the highway cruising at 70mph at about 11500rpm in 6th gear. I've had the car as fast as 165mph. I have since added a short throw shifter that tightened up my shifting, long tube headers, short ram air intake, and cat-back exhaust. To those who would miss the lumpy sounding cam of a 460+ cubic inch big block, you can cam swap these new engines and get them to lope just as hard.
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